Subj : Re: '-Unpublished-' with speed > 300
To   : Wilfred van Velzen
From : Dan Clough
Date : Sat Nov 08 2025 08:14:09

-=> Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

 WvV>> It's not a job, it's a hobby and they are volunteers. But if they
 WvV>> show no interest at all at participating in a meaning full way in
 WvV>> this hobby for a longer period of time, something should be done.

 DC> Sure, I know it's a hobby and a volunteered position... But if somebody
 DC> volunteers to "do a job" and then... doesn't do the job, well.... they
 DC> should get fired.  One of the key points here is how one defines "a
 DC> longer period of time".  Perhaps two weeks absent isn't quite long
 DC> enough, but maybe a MONTH is, IMHO.  If I'm gonna be away from home for
 DC> more than a week, I let my RC know.

 WvV> A month might not be realistic in the current state of Fidonet. But
 WvV> half year or eaven a year is. The problem might be who is going to keep
 WvV> track of that, and enforce things to happen.

Well there are certainly different opinions on how long is too long.  I 
think that an NC who doesn't notice a non-connectable node in a month is 
not doing the job properly, beyond any doubt.

 WvV>> It benefits no
 WvV>> one if a majority of nodes in a net or region are only there on paper.

 DC> 100% agree.  Remove the segment in those cases.

 WvV> Just removing is not enough, if there are a few remaining nodes, they
 WvV> need to be coached to another net. Someone needs to be found who can do
 WvV> that.

Yes, OK.  I originally read that as *all* the nodes were only there on 
paper.  Sure, any remaining nodes would need to be migrated.  Agreed 
that sometimes that can be tricky, but it's not impossible.

My whole point in all of this is that MONTHS or even YEARS of this 
dragging on is way too long, and people should be held more accountable 
when they don't do their jobs.



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