Subj : '-Unpublished-' with speed > 300
To   : Stas Mishchenkov
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Thu Nov 06 2025 10:05:19

Hello Stas,

On Wednesday November 05 2025 07:16, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>>>> ZC2: Move net 469 from R46 to R56

 SM>>> We tried this three years ago. It didn't work. Pavel (R46C)
 SM>>> proposed moving N469 out of the region. The network's sysops
 SM>>> wanted to migrate to R50.

 MvdV>> There is no technical reason to move Net 469 to R50.

 SM> The same as to any other region.

R56 is not he same as any other region. R56 is the "catch all" for those who are unable to maintain a region of their own and who do not fit - technically or otherwise - in any other region.

 SM> In either case, these will still be international phone calls.

What phone calls? There is no functioning POTS node left in net469.

 MvdV>> Moldova doen not even border Russia.

 SM> However, the native language of the 469 network sysops is Russian and
 SM> it will be easier for them to communicate with other sysops and
 SM> coordinators.

The official language of Moldova is Romenian. Moldova is a candidate member of the EU and last year the majority of the people of Moldova voted pro EU. So this Russian speaking sysop of yours is not a typical Moldovan citizen. If he is not happy with the democratic choices of the Moldovan people he has the choice to pack his bags and nove to Russia.

 SM> These are the wishes of the 469 network sysops.

One get not always get what one wants. Especially not if one is a minority.

 SM>>> It became clear that the 460 and 4600 networks were also
 SM>>> supposed to be migrated to R50 in accordance with the FPD.
 SM>>> That's how it all ended.

 MvdV>> FPD??

 SM> FidoNet Policy Document (Version 4.07, June 9, 1989). 1.3.2 Geography

 SM> The Crimean and Sevastopol networks have a telephone code of +7-...

1) On the order of the occupation force.

2) Telephone calls are largely irrelevant in the age of Fido over IP.

Crimea may be occupied territory, according to international law it is part of Ukraine. That is not negotaible.


Cheers, Michiel

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