Subj : 466/0 To : Stas Mishchenkov From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Fri May 30 2025 12:18:52 Hello Stas, On Thursday May 29 2025 13:15, you wrote to me: MvdV>> But it is not entirely out of your control. To use the .ru TLD MvdV>> for your host name is a choice. SM> This is a strictly technically reasonable decision. That is not how it is percieved... MvdV>> You could use a neutral TLD like .org, .net or .com instead of MvdV>> a country related TLD. SM> Konstantin Kuzov 2:5019/40 is the host master of g0x.ru. I use the SM> domain name for free. This is dynamic DNS. It is very well automated SM> and updates take effect on other DNSes within a minute. Why should I SM> refuse it? It is not for me to decide of you should use it or not. I am merely pointing out to you how you choice is perceived. To me it looks like a political choice. The fact that you claim to have the gift of bilocation - via your node in Moscow - does not help either. Plus that the location of node 460/16 is listed as "Simferopol-Russia". Sotty, Simferopol is Cremea, not Russia. Don't tell me that is a purely technical decision. MvdV>> I don't think there is much you can do about the country code MvdV>> in the telephone number other than just drop it. Which may be MvdV>> an option. SM> It can't be an option for me. We have a PSTN out only node in our SM> network to which I must to deliver mail. I see no POTS only node in net 460... MvdV>> The majority of Fidonet nodes is IP only. MvdV>> Or at least do you need to advertise it in the nodelist? SM> Yes. I must. why? If it is only for that one pesumed POTS only node in net 460, it can be dealt wuth by a private nodelist. SM> In other side it is a good case to bring into accordance SM> the nodelist with FPD FPD?? SM>>> It need to be sure that it is indeed a dead network, and not SM>>> just that you have no connection to it. MvdV>> Even in a county at war it should not have to take so long to MvdV>> make reasonably sure a net is dead. SM> Did you know how to be be sure under conditions of partial IP address SM> blocking? If the "partial IP blocking" makes the node unreachable fro inyone alse then the node is unreachable and the nodelist should reflect that reality. MvdV>> You will never have 100.00% certainty but that is not needed. SM> It strongly needed. Any node is essential. Gost nodes are not essential. MvdV>> Time to clean up. One way or another. SM> Propose the safe way. There is no safe way. 100% safety is an illusion. But if you postpone action for that reason, you will end up with ever moe garbage. Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303 * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555) .