Subj : 466/0
To   : Stas Mishchenkov
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Thu May 29 2025 10:15:33

Hello Stas,

On Thursday May 29 2025 10:00, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>>>> I know it is difficult in a country that is at war,

 SM>>> What does war have to do with it? If the RC itself is not on the
 SM>>> combat, then it should be able to monitor the relevance of the
 SM>>> nodelist.

 MvdV>> In a country at war, divided by war, it may be difficult for
 MvdV>> the RC to communicatie with the sysops. For technical and/or
 MvdV>> social reasons.

 SM> Do You understand that you are explaining this to a person who is not
 SM> far from the front line? ;)

I understand. But some of the readers here apparently do not...

 MvdV>> You yourself adverise a telephone number with a country code of
 MvdV>> 7. Which is not the country code (380) for Ukraine. The
 MvdV>> advertised host name for your system uses the ru TLD. Not the
 MvdV>> TLD for Ukraine. (ua). For some in R46 that may be perceived as
 MvdV>> "being on the other side of the trench".

 SM> Unfortunately, this is exactly the case.

But it is not entirely out of your control. To use the .ru TLD for your host name is a choice. You could use a neutral TLD like .org, .net or .com instead of a country related TLD. I don't think there is much you can do about the country code in the telephone number other than just drop it. Which may be an option. The majority of Fidonet nodes is IP only. Do you really still need POTS? Or at least do you need to advertise it in the nodelist?

 SM>>> There is no one there who could do this job better.

 MvdV>> How hard can it be to remove e dead net?

 SM> It need to be sure that it is indeed a dead network, and not just that
 SM> you have no connection to it.

Even in a county at war it should not have to take so long to make reasonably sure a net is dead. If a net is still alive there must be some remaining connection. If no one can connect to it, then it is dead. You will never have 100.00% certainty but that is not needed.

 MvdV>>>> I supspect there is a lot of dead wood in R46 and it isn't
 MvdV>>>> just the war. R46 was already suspiciously fractured before
 MvdV>>>> the war started.

 SM>>> Yes.

 MvdV>> So?

 SM> So what? ;) We have that we have.

Time to clean up. One way or another.


Cheers, Michiel

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