Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (278) To : Dmitry Protasoff From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Wed Oct 09 2024 12:23:19 Hello Dmitry, On Wednesday October 09 2024 00:35, you wrote to me: MV>> There are limits to what can reasonably be preserved. One can MV>> display the old devices but to make them run again often requires MV>> an anvironment that is just gone and can not be recovered within MV>> the limits of reasonable effort. DP> Nowadays, you can buy a $1k modem for just $10. It's a very cheap DP> hobby, costing less than an evening at the average pub. I wouldn't know, I have stopped going to pubs over two decades ago when my regular place turned into a fancy restaurant. But I was talking about the limits one meets when making these museum pieces RUN again instead of just collecting them. MV>> interesting. But these century old trains will never bring people MV>> from A to B again. Recreating the environment in which they could MV>> function is just not doable any more. And letting them run on the MV>> tracks in use DP> There are still places on this planet where you can travel from A to B DP> on a steam-powered train - I've done it myself. Some museums can DP> afford to maintain them. I know. I even know a place here in The Netherlands where such a steam powered trains run on a dedicated track a couple of km long. But that is just one small train against the many dozens that are on static display in the museum. MV>> now interferes too much with current railroad operating practice. MV>> So we will just have to satisfy ourselves with the static display MV>> of these antique jewels of technology. DP> What about century-old planes at air shows? Here we have the Dutch Dakota Association. They have two Dakotas that still fly. A third one crashed a decade ago and was lost. I didn't say it was totally impossible, but I said there are limits. John Travolta's 707 will probably never fly again. Same for the Space Shuttle. And now I am done with this thread. I do not have the means, the time or the drive to create or emulate an environment in which I can make Fido over modem work again. We are getting of topic anyway. So AFAIAC: EOT. Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303 * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555) .