Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (278) To : Dmitry Protasoff From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Mon Oct 07 2024 17:32:00 Hello Dmitry, On Sunday October 06 2024 19:30, you wrote to me: MV>> Why can't you run the system at the location where you are? DP> Energy prices in the UK are too high and free space is very limited. So you take the best of both worlds... DP> It's also no longer possible to get a home phone Eh.. ?? You were talking about modem over Voip. That should work in the UK. DP> and CSD has been disabled on UK GSM networks. CSD?? [..] MV>> VOIP is a senseless double conversion. You convert a digital MV>> signal to audio. And then you encode the audio to a digotal MV>> signal to transport it. At the other end you do the reverse. It MV>> is like sitting on a horse in a trailer that is towed by a car. MV>> It makes sense to do away with the horse and the trailer and just MV>> use the car to go from A to B. DP> It's like HAM radio. Makes little sense if you have mobile phonem but DP> it's still fun! HAM radio keeps working if everything else breaks down. But I am not going to argue, it is true that cell phones have taken most of "the magic" out of amateur radio. *1) DP>>> Too bad it's not possible to put multiple phone numbers in DP>>> Nodelist.. I don't know why The Founding Fathers never thougth DP>>> about this idea? It's so inconvenient. MV>> Inconvenient for who? In the POTS age there never was a need. DP> For me and my modem friends :) You and your modem friends are just a small closed group. You can easely distribute a private list. MV>> lines were expensive and for most one line was enough. But in de MV>> POTS age every decent phone company had the option to make MV>> multiple lines reachable via one phone number. MV>> VOIP has that possibility too. DP> What if I want connections to different phone companies? At the time of the founding fathers that was not an option. So of course they did not consider that. DP>>> It's not POTS, actually. One of the lines is from a GPON box, 2 DP>>> are from GSM CSD, and the rest are from SIP. But it's still PSTN DP>>> (because of the E.164 numbers involved), just not POTS. MV>> Ok, it is not POTS, so it is not really going back to the roots. MV>> It is just emulating the roots... ;-) DP> It's "good enough" emulation :) You won't notice much difference from DP> the software side. If you say so... ;-) Cheers, Michiel *1) AKA PA0MMV, licensed 1964 --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303 * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555) .