Subj : Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (203)
To   : Dieter Schauf
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Sat Jul 23 2022 08:37:04

Hello Dieter,

On Friday July 22 2022 15:04, you wrote to me:

 MV>> I wonder about all these Pvt nodes in net 240 and other nets in
 MV>> R24. Many of them show connect info and are connectable...

 DS> This is historically justified.

I think "justified" is the wrong word. "Explained" is the word I would have used.

 DS> This is from a time when IP nodes could only be in the node list as
 DS> PVT. Many have 'forgotten' the possibility of switching and just left
 DS> it like that.

Decoupling "Pvt" from "-Unpublished-" has been technically possible since versions of MakeNl became available that support "AllowUnpub". MakeNl Version 3.1.7 of 12 July 2004 already supported it. Versions for all common OS's have been available for over a decade. Even for OS/2.  The ZCs have allowed "-Unpublished-" wthout "Pvt" in 2014.

There is really no justification for still using this kludgy and outdated method of listing IP only nodes. Nearly all of Fidonet made the change many, many years ago. Nets 240 and 2432 are the exception.

Net 2452 is OK. ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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