Subj : Nlcheck report To : Nodelist Police Commissioner From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Sat May 07 2022 10:27:19 Hello Nodelist, On Friday May 06 2022 09:30, you wrote to All: NC> One less entry this week: NC> ;E ,99,New_Fidonet_Applicant,San_Antonio_TX,New_Sysop,-Unpublished-,30 NC> 0 ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info -- NC> This "node" was put on Hold in the nodelist this week. Still NC> unnecessary nodelist polution, but at least it is more correct now. NC> But I don't understand why it "needs" a XA flag now. You can't connect NC> to it, so a file request flag is utterly useless... Other than that: "Hold" does not really cover this case either. Let's see what FTS-5000 says about Hold. Hold Defines a node which is operational but cannot be publicly contacted. This is expected to be a temporary condition. Mail may be sent to such nodes, routed via its Hub, Host or Coordinator, or held locally by the originating node until the Hold keyword is removed. That does not really cover the situation of the "New Sysop" listings does it? Neither does "Pvt". Pvt This keyword defines a Private node (see Policy v4.07, Section 2.1.9) - i.e. a node that is operational, but not publicly available for direct contact. When this keyword is used, field six should contain the string "-Unpublished-". In case the coordinator's nodelist processing software does not allow the use of "-Unpublished-" without the Pvt keyword, this keyword may also be used to list an internet only node. In either case, if the originating node cannot contact the destination node, mail may instead be routed via its Hub or Host. Pvt entries are only allowed as members of local networks. So then what? List them as "Down"? Down Defines a node which is not operational. This is expected to be (semi-)permanent. Mail may NOT be sent or routed to it. That seems to be better than "Hold" or "Pvt" but it still does not seem right. These "nodes" should not be in the nodelist. That is my Not So Humble Opnion. Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303 * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555) .