Subj : Look ma! No hands! To : mark lewis From : Maurice Kinal Date : Tue Jan 15 2019 20:11:37 Hey mark! ml> i think Synchronet BBS does but i haven't looked very closely to ml> see for sure I'll check later. I am curious but somewhat distracted at the moment with the raspi3b+ thingy I am poking at as we speak. ml> we're not tampering with anything I wasn't talking for we ... whoever we are. All I am saying is that I don't touch the originals, even for display purposes and definetly don't use it for sorts. First come, first serve has been my motto. ml> it is a simple thing to do if all the necessary parts are ml> available... Sure. Have fun. Personally I plan to continue ignoring them, including the TZUTC kludges ... including mine. All three systems here are still UTC no matter what the TZUTC says, although for the record it is adjusted to PST8PDT from the MSG's unixtime which is stored as a 32 bit hex number in the MSGID. ml> $(date +%j) That is only good for the year it is being used in. For archiving the %Y%m%d%H%M%SUTC%z is better but I prefer the simpler %s which should be unique for all time and can be used to extact %j and/or %Y%m%d%H%M%SUTC%z from if and when needed. For even greater uniqueness I've been known to use %s.%N. Let's see if the Møøse certification dealie is working. If so then this MSG will contain a CHRS thingy ... which can and will be ignored I am sure. ;-) Life is good, Maurice .... Don't cry for me I have vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.0(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113) .