Subj : Re: It's bad enough that Usenet is mostly insults, now our software ins
To   : Carlos E.R.
From : William Unruh
Date : Wed Dec 05 2018 14:55:05

On 2018-12-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 03/12/2018 15.21, William Unruh wrote:
>> On 2018-12-03, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 03/12/2018 13.45, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>>> In article <ep1edf-f59.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>,
>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> Sure, I have seen that in openSUSE. And if I typed the wrong password or
>>>>> tried to use the wrong command it would *insult* me. This is a
>>>>> configuration which I disabled fast:
>>>>>
>>>>> /etc/sudoers:
>>>>>
>>>>> ## Do not insult users when they enter an incorrect password.
>>>>> Defaults !insults
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And openSUSE years ago changed the default configuration file to not
>>>>> insult, but the software default was to insult.
>>>>
>>>> Just out of curiosity, what was the insult?  What does it say?
>>>
>>> I don't remember. That we would be reported to the administrator.
>>
>> HOw is that an insult? It is (presumably/hopefully) a statement of fact.
>
> Nononono. The gist of what it said was that, but the wording was with
> insults. And no, I don't remember them, I disabled them long ago - after

Ah, OK. I agree that there is no need for that kind of behaviour.


> all I'm the administrator and what I do as user I want to give myself
> permission to do. I don't need to be insulted by software in my own
> computer.
>
> Example:
>
> sudo apk-get update
> [sudo] password for saket:
> Are you on drugs?
I assume that that is an example you made up rather than an actual
quote.
but yes, there is no need for that.


Note that I have never seen this behaviour and the word "insult" does
not occur in my /etc/sudoers file (and I do not have a sudo.conf file)
so I seem to have been spared (Mageia 6)
..

>
>
> No, I do not see the humour in that. I see it as kids having the root
> power and making poor lowly users suffer when having to use a terminal,
> just because the could do it and get away with it.
>
> And to be practical, getting an insult instead of a message that I typed
> the wrong password makes people waste time trying to figure out what
> happened.
>
>
> You can see them here (google "sudo insults") - the last article has a
> view at the sources:
>
><https://itsfoss.com/sudo-insult-linux/>
><https://www.tecmint.com/sudo-insult-when-enter-wrong-password/>
><https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/when-sudo-insults-you/>
><https://askubuntu.com/questions/837558/where-are-sudos-insults-stored>
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