Subj : El Ingenioso Hidalgo Don
To   : Maurice Kinal
From : Benny Pedersen
Date : Wed Nov 07 2018 19:04:36

Hello Maurice!

07 Nov 2018 17:04, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

 BP>> gentoo have disabled multilib on 64bit

 MK> What took them so long?

funtoo develoopers was still using gentoo :)

 MK> I briefly had a multilib going when I first 
 MK> got my hands on a amd64 and went pure 64 bit after that on a quad core 
 MK> xeon.

i waited to see it disabled, at that time it took long to compile glibc when it 
was updated :)

 MK> That was around 15 years ago and the only distribution talking 
 MK> about pure 64 back then was fedora.

time fly, redhat 9 did something bad aswell, i lost intrest in redhat when it 
killed redhat free update support, asking users to just change to some other 
precompiled things would be like ask me to install cpm on x86 :)

 MK> The "Cross Linux From Scratch" 
 MK> people were the only ones I was aware of that did more than just talk 
 MK> about it.

yes i remember some fun from that talks

 MK> As far as raspbian is concerned, there is a port called pi64 which is 
 MK> as close as it gets to an official raspbian.

in gentoo i see

   ----- rpi begins -----
[N] media-libs/raspberrypi-userland (--): Raspberry Pi userspace tools and 
libraries
[N] media-libs/raspberrypi-userland-bin (--): Raspberry Pi userspace tools and 
libraries
[N] media-video/raspberrypi-omxplayer (--): Command line media player for the 
Raspberry Pi
[N] sys-boot/raspberrypi-firmware (--): Raspberry PI boot loader and firmware
[N] sys-boot/raspberrypi-mkimage (~0_p20120201): Raspberry Pi kernel mangling 
tool mkimage/imagetool-uncompressed.py
[N] sys-kernel/raspberrypi-image (--): Raspberry PI boot loader and firmware
[N] sys-kernel/raspberrypi-sources (--): Raspberry PI kernel sources
Found 7 matches
   ----- rpi ends -----

no stable ebuilds yet :/

note it miight be on rpi installs :)

 MK> I haven't tried it 
 MK> myself as I have issues with people who purposely degrade hardware all 
 MK> in the name of so-called compatibilty.

you can say it more polite precompiled problems :)

 MK> The raspbian people are no 
 MK> better than what Bill Gates did way back in the early 1990's with 
 MK> 16-bit dos on 32 bit cpu's.

agree

 MK> It took MS a decade before finally 
 MK> getting rid of that lame idea and by that time the x86_64's were 
 MK> rearing their ugly heads and ot took them another five-ish years to 
 MK> finally catch up.

this is still what happens on all what is done in all the precompiled distros, 
i only know gentoo and freebsd not have this problems

 MK> Putting a 32 bit operating system on a 64 bit cpu is shameful and 
 MK> disgraceful methinks.

is runCPM x86 an exempt to that ?


 Regards Benny

.... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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 * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)

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