Subj : appearances are decieving
To   : Maurice Kinal
From : Richard Menedetter
Date : Fri Jun 15 2018 12:00:56

Hi Maurice!

12 Jun 2018 14:56, from Maurice Kinal -> Richard Menedetter:

 RM>> What exactly do you mean?
 MK> Nothing like a real life example to make the point;

I could read english and german.
I could not read the rest. (because I cannot read that languages! it is not a 
matter of UTF-8 encoding, but a lack of knowledge of more than 4 languages.)

 MK> UTF-8 messaging can be fun for the whole family, especially Fidonet.

What difference does it make?
Most people (I assume >> 90% percent will NOT be able to see extended 
characters correctly, and moreover I cannot read them, no matter how they are 
encoded.)

 MK> So, what are you waiting for?  Enable UTF-8 Fidonet text messaging
 MK> today and join in on the fun.

Why?
All languages I use in fidonet (English and German) are covered by 8859-1.
The additional characters I am unable to read ... so what do *I* gain by using 
UTF-8? (eg. for English UTF-8 and ASCII are the same ... you use the first 128 
characters.

 MK> Note that I have turned on the CHRS kludge.
 MK> I am betting it won't make a difference to your editor.

Sure ... my editor does not support UTF-8, so naturally it does not make a 
difference.

But it WILL make a difference for Jamnntpd or Hotdoged, that DO support UTF-8.

 RM>> I am using it daily and it works just fine within the scope of
 RM>> the implementation.

 MK> a modern golded should have no issues with this test.

Golded is very, very far from modern.
(As is the whole Fidonet BTW).

I do not have an issue with that test.
It shows that I can see ASCII and 8859-1 without problems, and that extended 
characters are mangled (those characters which I would be incapable to read 
anyhow ...)
No new information from your test.

CU, Ricsi

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