Subj : appearances are decieving To : Richard Menedetter From : Maurice Kinal Date : Tue Jun 12 2018 13:22:34 Hallo Richard! RM> But I also do not have the need to send characters of languages RM> that I do not speak. I can relate especially considering that I haven't ever mastered the language I speak, nevermind ones that I don't. Having said that I can see where utf-8 supported echoareas might improve the current situation in Fidonet. It is worth a shot ... maybe. RM> Some people tried to add UTF-8 support, but they gave up. I don't blame them. For my part I just use an already capable editor (vim in my case but there are many others) and took it from there. One thing I've noticed is that it doesn't matter if a kludge is provided or not. Both golded and msged will screw them up with or without a CHRS kludge. It is a total waste of bytes and probably only encourages the FTSC powers that be to write further jibberish they call "standards". :::evil grin::: Het leven is goed, Maurice .... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi. --- GNU bash, version 4.4.23(1)-release (x86_64-bonnell-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113) .