Subj : A Brand New Look! To : Kees van Eeten From : Maurice Kinal Date : Tue May 22 2018 12:45:27 Hallo Kees! MK>> Hopefully the above makes sense. ;-) KvE> If your remark is about Vi, then it does. Yes it was but after thinking about it I realized it could also apply to life. KvE> But even in these 20 years I have mastered less then 10 commands. That sounds about right. I've been using it off and on for about 30 years now and started using it on Solaris. I used it to write manpages for in house programs. There wasn't much documentation for much of anything back then. Two books I had were for C and Fortran for scientists and engineers. Nothing for vi that I ever saw until later on Linux for vim. KvE> As far as documentation goes, donot you have access to the man KvE> pages. Now I do but not back when I was teaching myself C and Unix. Before that it was VAX/VMS which I had a 10-20 page typed document for. I had to learn that the hard way as well but had a bit of advantage as I had a book for Fortran which helped quite a bit. I wrote many utilities for retrieving and formatting data to and from nine track tape drives and then later on for external scsi exabyte drives for Sparc stations. KvE> I usually search for examples on the web. There was no web back then. In fact I recall when the www first started. The first web interface I encountered was lynx on a dumb terminal and the html output on it was all screwed up due to the default 80 character width of lynx on a terminal that couldn't display it properly. I never understood the attraction of html until seeing the gui version on xwindows. I think it was mozilla but maybe an earlier form of it. It might come to me later. I don't miss those days at all. KvE> I suppose that is age as well, short term memory goes first. Yes. I can relate to that as well as some long term memory such as what mozilla may or may not have been called before mozilla. :-/ Het leven is goed, Maurice .... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi. --- GNU bash, version 4.4.19(1)-release (x86_64-bonnell-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113) .