Subj : Re: helllooo? To : Nicholas Boel From : Joacim Melin Date : Sat Dec 02 2017 18:06:23 NB> Hello Mike, NB> On Sat Dec 02 2017 00:52:26, Mike Miller wrote to Nicholas Boel: MM>> I'm running into one of those stupid emerge issues right now on my MM>> devbox. too many things unmasked and it doesn't want to update MM>> properly. Meanwhile I can just "yum -y update" on my BBS machine MM>> without worrying that it's going to break. NB> Yeah, those were a pain tracking down the problem too! I honestly NB> can't say that I miss it one bit, really. While the idea is nice, I'd NB> now rather wait for the time to try an LFS build if I'm going to go NB> back to compiling everything. MM>> "You built a new computer, throw Gentoo on the old one" I said. "It's MM>> got a fast CPU, Gentoo will work great!" I insisted. "You'll keep it MM>> up to date, just emerge once every few days or so!" I thought. MM>> Yeah... NB> HAHA. But sometimes that "once every few days" overlap each other NB> when you have to compile for 8 hours (so you walk away), come back 12 NB> hours later and the compile broke somewhere, so you have to track it NB> down and recompile everything that didn't compile all over again. NB> Yikes, as I said I don't miss it. lol NB>>> Now I run the BBS on Arch and update whenever I feel like it. NB>>> Takes no time at all and everything has been surprisingly stable NB>>> for a few years now. MM>> I tried to toss Arch on my laptop at one point, and I just couldn't MM>> get it to run right. It booted, but X wouldn't come up, and I didn't MM>> want to do Gentoo-levels of tinkering with it to make it work, so I MM>> gave up. I think I'm too old to learn a new distro... NB> So you tried installing X after you rebooted into it the first time? NB> Arch doesn't come with X preinstalled. The best instructions are on NB> the wiki. I think it's as simple as: NB> pacman -S xorg NB> Then if you want to use 'startx' you'd have to install xorg-xinit as NB> it doesn't come with the base xorg packages. Same goes for something NB> like xdg, gdm, kdm, etc if you want a graphical login. NB> That aside, if you're looking for an Arch-based distro that comes NB> with all the extras, you could try Manjaro or Antergos. I gave NB> Manjaro a looksee in a VM and it was great. Definitely a nice usable NB> desktop OS. I just have no need for X so I stick with Arch itself NB> these days. My main desktop is Windows 10, mainly because of gaming. NB> I just use Putty or VMWare's detachable console program to access my NB> Linux servers. Or you just install Fedora or Ubuntu and shit just works. :D --- NiKom v2.3.1 * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0) .