Subj : helllooo? To : Nicholas Boel From : Mike Miller Date : Sat Dec 02 2017 00:52:27 Hello Nicholas! 01 Dec 17 10:40, you wrote to me: NB> Hello Mike, NB> On Thu Nov 30 2017 12:07:18, Mike Miller wrote to Nicholas Boel: NB>>> Oh no, definitely not. I'd probably go the CentOS route as well NB>>> if I were managing that much. However, for a few machines at NB>>> home.. ;) MM>> I run Gentoo on my "dev box", which I use for all my devops-y MM>> work. It also runs SEXPOTS to forward landline callers to the MM>> BBS. (Although one of these days I'm going to switch it over to MM>> mgetty and ifcico, I just don't have a good way to test it, since MM>> I can't call myself) MM>> My BBS runs on CentOS 7 mainly because I wanted it on something MM>> stable, and I I can manage the OS in my sleep (and after long MM>> days at work, I often do!). Years back I ran Synchronet on MM>> Gentoo, and that was ... well, less fun that I wanted it to be. NB> I ran Gentoo for upwards of 10 years or so. And I agree. While NB> Synchronet on Gentoo works great, it was usually Gentoo you had to NB> worry about. Especially trying to run the ~ unstable architecture. NB> That was a dumb idea that I fought for years. Once I went with the NB> stable arch it was actually quite a bit better, although I'm one to NB> constantly upgrade - and that is always a pain in the ass with Gentoo NB> (ie: it's dependency situation is still something I cringe at to this NB> day - try to upgrade one thing and it wants to pull in 40 dependencies NB> and take 2 hours to compile). After taking a look at LFS and realizing NB> that things like gcc only requires glibc, when Gentoo would want to NB> update your entire system (obviously to re-compile with the latest NB> gcc, but who needs to do that for every package?).. I tired of it and NB> went another route until I get the time (and patience) to do an LFS NB> install. I probably wouldn't use it as my server OS, but there's never NB> a time to stop learning. ;) I'm running into one of those stupid emerge issues right now on my devbox. too many things unmasked and it doesn't want to update properly. Meanwhile I can just "yum -y update" on my BBS machine without worrying that it's going to break. "You built a new computer, throw Gentoo on the old one" I said. "It's got a fast CPU, Gentoo will work great!" I insisted. "You'll keep it up to date, just emerge once every few days or so!" I thought. Yeah... NB> Now I run the BBS on Arch and update whenever I feel like it. Takes no NB> time at all and everything has been surprisingly stable for a few NB> years now. I tried to toss Arch on my laptop at one point, and I just couldn't get it to run right. It booted, but X wouldn't come up, and I didn't want to do Gentoo-levels of tinkering with it to make it work, so I gave up. I think I'm too old to learn a new distro... Mike .... You will be told about it tomorrow. Go home and prepare --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20161221 * Origin: War Ensemble - warensemble.com - Appleton, WI (1:154/30) .