Subj : life ? To : Rob Swindell From : Maurice Kinal Date : Mon Mar 02 2020 16:33:23 Hallo Rob! RS> You're saying Java doesn't have a foreseeable future? Yes I am. Mind you I am not counting so-called smart devices. Mind you I've never seen nor heard of a development enviroment (compiler and friends) that runs within an OS on a so-called smart device. RS> You seem to be saying that that llvm (clang) requires gcc? It required something to get it kickstarted. In my case it is/was gcc. At this point in time the resulting clang cannot successfully compile glibc but there looks to be some hope for llvm-10 as a possible contender to build a complete linux-gnu which is what the original claim was and that it is currently available via the mandriva distribution. So far I haven't seen any real evidence that this is true and the llvm-9.0.1 (latest and greatest) falls far short of creating it's own bootable enviroment independent of gcc. Het leven is goed, Maurice .... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113) .