Subj : life ? To : Gerrit Kuehn From : Maurice Kinal Date : Sat Feb 01 2020 15:29:08 Hallo Gerrit! GK> The stuff is OSS, but I don't compile it myself, I just let the GK> vendor or the community do the legwork. Does that include "Msged/BSD 6.1.2" and/or "hpt/fbsd 1.9.0-cur 08-05-14"? GK> many people do not recognise that embedded platforms and such GK> were the original target market for java when it was invented by GK> Sun's engineers I've run across many such things over the years. Nothing much lately but then again I don't usually follow embedded development for the mostpart. GK> Selecting a language heavily depends on the intended use and GK> context. Development would be of primary interest as far as I am concerned and thus an embedded enviroment is more of a curiousity than an actual working enviroment up to and including the raspi3b+ I happen to have built a LFS-ish for. That was fun for awhile. Absolutely zero java on there as everything was (is?) gcc/glibc based. I haven't worked on it for about a year now as I have little to nothing for it to actually do for the network I have working for the "cause" whatever the "cause" might happen to be. Getting a working pure 64-bit aarch64-linux-gnu enviroment was my prime motivation at the time and I believe I had done a good job. GK> in some places gcc really sucked Example(s)? The only one I can claim any experience with would be any 16-bit DOS enviroment running on 32-bit processors. :::shudder::: What a bad joke that whole concept turned out to be. GK> but it makes maintenance for "appliances" that are supposed to GK> "just work" based on this software a real hassle at times Agreed. In my case the lack of appliances that "just work" are the usual source of grief which means having working gcc/glibc enviroment to take care of things that actually matter is the prime motivation for all the systems under my care. Mind you I have yet to send anything out to explore the universe on it's own so perhaps I am looking at "appliances" the wrong way? Het leven is goed, Maurice .... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113) .