Subj : A Terminal and a Manual
To   : Maurice Kinal
From : Kai Richter
Date : Wed Oct 23 2019 15:24:24

Hello Maurice!

21 Oct 19, Maurice Kinal wrote to Kai Richter:

 MK> Hallo Kai!

 KR>> a basic shell system of 300-400MB where you can install your
 KR>> server on top.

 MK> I seriously doubt the above contains gcc and friends which as of
 MK> gcc-9.2.0 takes up 455MB for the basic toolchain

You are correct. That's why i said basic shell system, not basic build system.

Btw, you removed the context of my basic shell, before i wrote something like i 
rely on the maintainers. They build on their machines, with their time and 
energy and i install the result as binary.

 MK> which in my humble guesstimation is the bare bones minimum to call a
 MK> linux-gnu shell enviroment.  Without gcc and friends the above is
 MK> only a toy and doesn't even rate calling a evaluation system given
 MK> the lack of development tools.  Anything that cannot take care of
 MK> itself isn't worth booting in the first place.

I do not see that any system needs a dev and build environment. It is a waste 
of time and energy if every system is building from scratch and compiling it's 
software on its own. I doubt that you - if you're responsible for 100 computers 
- would run a build environment on every machine and compile any software 100 
times.

 KR>> From scratch is a far longer journey but you'll learn many
 KR>> insides of the system.

 MK> Which is what was asked for in the initial enquiry.

I do apologize if i did not understand that at first. I'm still not sure if it 
was a question for configuration or building.

 MK> I'd argue that it is a worthwhile document just for reading but if
 MK> and when followed will provide one with the best possible system with
 MK> whatever additional sources one adds to it.

Good point. Maybe i see a question for a manual as a questions from the user 
point of view. I think a developer would ask for the source code because any 
detail is within. Finally he now have all choices.

Regards

Kai

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