Subj : JamNNTPd that WORKS To : mark lewis From : Rick Christian Date : Fri Nov 04 2016 13:30:38 Hello mark! 03 Nov 16 20:48, you wrote to Nicholas Boel: ml> the main thing that strikes me in all of this is that fidonet is and ml> always has been a hobby network for those wanting to experiment with You, others, and I are ovbiously in this for a far different reasons! Even in the 90's when I started originally.. I don't think of this as mainly a hobby. And NO WAY is this an "experiment!" This is a means to a goal. Example: Echos are essentially "support groups" or maybe discussion groups for a topic be it software, golded, binkd, jamnntpd, crashmail.....etc... They exist to *help* others get things going or resolve a problem.. at least thats the goal, as *I* see it... Then as now, I operated my node to get access to those echos primarily, and to send emails all over the place via FTN tech... I later setup a UUCP gate for emails from the local net to go out via my UUCP account. I setup and maintained a private FTN net to get a very old niche group into the at the time cutting edge stuff. That group doesn't exist... run over by ... nevermind.. suffice it .. run over by the web.... I prefer echos v. web forums.. I am just not into that...never was.. part of some of the things I do right now via some Yahoo things are going to move to FTN based stuff, or more aptly RETURN to it. As I know VZW will start chopping off the dead wood, and this is definitely one of them. ml> store-and-forward networking... i really have to wonder, sometimes, if ml> some folks just don't know that or if they may have lost that ml> vision... this especially pertains to some of our Z2 brethern who are I don't know what the issue or schizim is with Z2 and/or others v. Z1.. and honeslty I don't care.... but what I do see is that in this there is the same issue..as here. Simply, you, others and I are on different ends of the spectrum of things.. I am not here to exeriment, and this aint no hobby! If that is how you view it, then that is your take... Just as many things have an impact on how I view compiling.... and bluntly this fiasco has done nothing to change, but only enhance my ill view of it! And since the resolution to this was to use *PRE-COMPILED* binaries anyway... I think that speaks volumes enough. Rick --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160322 * Origin: Vina's Talos Moon Base Alpha (1:135/377) .