Subj : JamNNTPd that WORKS To : Nicholas Boel From : mark lewis Date : Thu Nov 03 2016 20:48:58 03 Nov 16 13:11, you wrote to me: RC>>> I am contacting sourceforge as I type to have that removed so this RC>>> will shut down another avenue of bad sources of this software. ml>> now why would you do that? destroying someone else's hard work and ml>> effort? that's going to upset folks if you cause their repo and folks NB> Habitual complainer, maybe? on the one hand, i tend to agree with both sides... i well remember the troubles i went through when i moved to this location and could not get a connection from the raleigh network or anywhere where else... i was finally able to get a connection though the fayetteville net but it was LD just as the raleigh net was... both wanted me to pay for my echos but in-state LD was more expensive than out-of-state so i told them i'd poll at least once a month for routed netmail and i'd pull my echos from whereever i wanted and could get a connection... that was not taken very lightly... this was before planet connect came along... then PC came along and proved my point and years later i'm now the NC of the entire state of north carolina... the mian point being tha ti've seen both sides and back in those days i was even looking for gated fidonet echos on usenet... there were very few and being able to get them didn't do anything to make my system a fidonet node... the main thing that strikes me in all of this is that fidonet is and always has been a hobby network for those wanting to experiment with store-and-forward networking... i really have to wonder, sometimes, if some folks just don't know that or if they may have lost that vision... this especially pertains to some of our Z2 brethern who are in positions of influence and/or control... especially when they go so far as to refuse to see and acknowledge other FTNs and that what fidonet does also affects those other FTNs at the basest level... )\/(ark Always Mount a Scratch Monkey Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong... .... All I want for Christmas is... a 233Mhz with a 4.3Gb HD , 32MB, 4 Mb Video, 24 --- * Origin: (1:3634/12.73) .