Subj : space oddity (fixes)
To   : Nicholas Boel
From : Carlos Navarro
Date : Tue Apr 23 2024 16:46:04

21 Apr 2024 14:32, you wrote to me:

 CN>> Yes, but it does the same with both flowed off and on
 CN>> (format=flowed and format=fixed look almost identical on readers
 CN>> that don't support f=f). If you use it in horizontal view, or on
 CN>> a larger screen like a tablet, it looks better.

 NB> Which is why I'm wondering if the wrap is set in HotdogEd for 79
 NB> characters by default. Then it would obviously have that issue when
 NB> using a phone with only ~58 character width available.

No. It's just that it doesn't support f=f's soft wraps. A "real" long line is wrapped at screen width.

 CN>> I think we had seen that tin does support f=f, at least it
 CN>> removed stuffed spaces. Does it wrap paragraphs at more than 72
 CN>> chars, or are they adjusted to the screen width?

 NB> I tested tin on the tin nntp server that contained very old messages.
 NB> However, this was the only time I saw paragraphs adjusted to the
 NB> screen width. Anything that has come through jam/smapinntpd has been
 NB> wrapped at 72-79 characters.

So it has partial f=f support, as it seems it doesn't recognize soft wraps.

 NB>>> So is it a HotdogEd problem that you're looking to come up with
 NB>>> a work around for, specifically?

 CN>> No, it may be good for other newsreaders too. If I'm not
 CN>> mistaken, Smapi/JamNNTPd would work like other NNTP servers do.

 NB> I think with what I just described above (where I've seen screen width
 NB> paragraphs outside of jam/smapinntpd), I see now where you guys are
 NB> pointing out the difference against a "real" NNTP server.

 NB> Some clients probably don't understand the 'soft-wrapping trailing
 NB> spaces', or don't care to put them back together to re-form long
 NB> lines, but can handle long lines themselves just fine. Am I
 NB> understanding what you are describing here, now?

Yes!
Thunderbird and Seamonkey do, but most others don't.

Carlos

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