Subj : Re: New in this To : Michiel van der Vlist From : Ward Dossche Date : Wed Dec 25 2019 13:54:29 Michiel, Mv>WD> No. Guess I'm not really trying ... One day I will. Mv> Another three months have passed. Is this the day? I have passed in the ISPs store on main street here. First reaction "What are you talking about?" After having explained that this is an issue cropping-up in their online own customer-customer fora I get a phone-number of a division where they will be able to assist me. When I call that number, the answer is "What are you talking about?" 2 possible conclusions: 1) The helpdesk-people really don't know anything about this 2) The helpdesk-people are unwilling, or have been instructed not, to co-operate with such a request. The company-installed routers have 3 access-levels and you get the password for the lowest level which enables basic Fido-operation. It seems impossible to get a password to get one level up in the router-administration hierarchy ... there seems to be a general idea that all their clients are morons and need to be protected against themselve messing-up their router and then having to send-out a technical guy. \%/@rd --- D'Bridge 3.99 * Origin: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards (2:292/854) .