Subj : List of IPv6 nodes
To   : Dan Clough
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Fri Oct 04 2019 21:44:01

Hello Dan,

On Friday October 04 2019 08:56, you wrote to me:

 MvV>> Sad indeed.

 DC> I don't find it "sad", just "reality".

So let's call it the "sad reality".

 DC> I have no option to get/use IPv6 here where I live.  It's not offered
 DC> by any ISP that I know of.

When there is a want, there is a way. There is an option.

1) As others have mentioned you could use a tunnel. For you he.net may be the best choice. They offer 6in4 tunnels as a free service.

2) If your ISP does not offer IPv6 yet, you should make noise.

 MvV>> I have come across sysops who's provider offers IPv6 but they
 MvV>> refuse to make use of it. IPv6 is too fat and too complicated
 MvV>> and it is not needed they say. :(

 DC> Well, it's not actually *needed*, is it?  Fidonet is working just
 DC> fine here on IPv4, just as it always has.

It isn't /needed/ yet, but it will be needed in the foreseeable future. But then again, Fidonet itself is not "needed". Fidonet ios a hobby created by pioneers. Since when are pioneers stopped by "lack of perceived need"?  What happened to that pioneer spirit?

 DC> Most people (including me) don't care.

That is the sad part. That uncle Joe does not care does not matter. That Fidoenet sysops - supposedly pioneers - don't care is sad.

 DC> When the v4's run out, things will be different.

The IPv4 addresses HAVE run out. Years ago.

Projected RIR Address Pool Exhaustion Dates:

RIR      Exhaustion Date     Remaining Addresses in RIR Pool (/8s)
APNIC:   19-Apr-2011         0.1881
RIPE NCC:14-Sep-2012         0.0575
LACNIC:  10-Jun-2014         0.0231
ARIN:    24 Sep-2015         0.0002
AFRINIC: 20-Feb-2020         0.2240

The difference with oil is that the numbers are not burned. Whatever is there remains usable. But there is no way one get get more of them.

 DC>   For now..... it's not needed.

"We don't need a telephone system, we have an excellent system of messenger boys".


Cheers, Michiel

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