Subj : Re: NAT To : Victor Sudakov From : Tony Langdon Date : Sun Jan 27 2019 20:11:00 -=> On 01-26-19 21:18, Victor Sudakov wrote to Tony Langdon <=- VS> It was not intended as a security mechanism initially, but over time, VS> it became one, and is required by many security guidelines. Ask some VS> computer security specialist you trust, if you don't believe me. Well, having compared notes, I am wary of anyone who calls themselves a "specialist" without personal knowledge and trust of the person. :) I've certainly heard a lot of dodgy stories about so-called "specialists" in networking from a very trusted source over the years. VS> Of course it does more! No packet filter *hides* *src* *addresses* of VS> your internal hosts, and that is exactly what security people love NAT VS> for. True, but IPv6 has mechanisms for source IP privacy without NAT. VS> Sorry you are mistaken. Very few attacks nowdays are based on injecting VS> malicious traffic into your network, those times are long gone. VS> Information gathering about your intranet could be much more important VS> than the ability to send traffic into it from outside. That is a good point. TL> NAT still creates a lot of problems, ask anyone who'd wrestled with TL> port forwarding, to try and get services opened to the Internet. VS> That's a different story, I myself have wrestled enough with IPv4 NAT. VS> So I would be happy to advocate NAT-less IPv6 to anyone, but I need VS> arguments. Have not heard anything new so far. Yeah so have I and it's a pain in the proverbial. .... Sir, the Romulans do not take prisoners! === MultiMail/Win v0.51 --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410) .