Subj : 2:5057/53
To   : Benny Pedersen
From : Victor Sudakov
Date : Thu Jul 05 2018 21:59:54

Dear Benny,

05 Jul 18 06:46, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>>>> Let's give him and his NC a chance to correct it...

 BP>>> it basicly there own problem, but binkp.net should reject ina
 BP>>> with binkp.net listnings

 VS>> Last time I checked, binkp.net did not rely solely on DDN, you
 VS>> could enter any RR for your node manually via a Web page (which I
 VS>> did long ago). So if you have created a RR for your node in
 VS>> binkp.net, there should be no technical problem using a
 VS>> binkp.net-derived name in the nodelist flags.

 BP> i did not know its a webpage aswell, if the web lets users create rr
 BP> that are not in nodelist, hmm :)

Yes, it does. It started this way. It is very convenient, and works as a regular DNS zone with a Web editor.

Of course, if you try to register at https://binkp.net/ as 2:5005/49, a Netmail with a confirmation code will be sent to 2:5005/49. So it's pretty safe, you can create any RR only for your own node.

 VS>> The requirement in FTS-5004

 VS>> If the INA flag (or any of the protocol flags) of any node
 VS>> carries host name built from the FTN address using DDN or any
 VS>> other method, that node MUST be skipped and MUST NOT appear in
 VS>> resulting NS zone. In general, such names SHOULD NOT appear in
 VS>> the nodelist.

 BP> +1

 VS>> has always seemed technically unfounded (or at least the
 VS>> unarticulated "any other method" statement) to me. Does it mean
 VS>> that I can use the INA:fido.sibptus.ru flag all right, but cannot
 VS>> use the INA:node49.net5005.sibptus.ru flag? Why?

 BP> it does not work since binkd only handle single root-domain in
 BP> binkd.cfg

 BP> try in cfg:

I'm not going to put "root-domain sibptus.ru" in binkd's config, that's a silly idea. I mean that a sysop has the right to put any DNS name she finds necessary into the INA flag, no matter if it's derived from the FTN address or not. A nodelist has no concept of "root-domain", a DNS name is just a DNS name.

Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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 * Origin: Ulthar (2:5005/49)

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