Subj : Re: New one in the making
To   : Michiel van der Vlist
From : Tony Langdon
Date : Wed Apr 25 2018 07:52:00

-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

 MvV> Hmm.. I see that I should have been more specific than "they" in the
 MvV> 2nd sentence of the quote above.

Yes, had we been conversing in person, I would have asked for clarification of
which "they" you mentioned. :)

 MvV> I was talking about my ISP. Here there is just one ISP on the cable.
 MvV> That is the "they" I meant above. But there also is xDSL available on
 MvV> the old copper from the POTS era. On the old POTS copper one has a
 MvV> choice of about a dozen ISPs. Albeit at lower speed...

That was the situation with cable here, but with the HFC networks in Australia
(No HFC around my location anyway)

 MvV> My first cable modem was a Motorola Surfboard. Indeeed just a bridge
 MvV> after which I had my own router. The modem was on loan from the ISP,

I can't remember what my first cable modem was, but the second one was a
Surfboard.  Both were bridges.

 MvV> the router was my own. Now "they" only have modems with a build in
 MvV> router. They do not sell them, you get them on loan.

I'm not sure exactly what the arrangement was when I had cable.  Yes, they
"supplied" the modem, but I can't recall the exact arrangement.  All I know is
when I had to upgrade, it was like "turn everything off, swap modems, wait 5
minutes and then restart everything - oh, and throw the old modem away...".

 MvV> Most xDSL providers have the same or a similar policy. Some of them
 MvV> even offer full stack native IPv6.

Yep. :)

 MvV> The reason I stay with the cable is that they have an attractive "all
 MvV> in one" offer. TV + Telephone + internet. With much more bandwith than
 MvV> xDSL.

Yeah, I don't do cable TV, even when I was on the cable - I never found it good
value.  Netflix is the first subscription service I've found worth paying for,
for TV.

 MvV> No fiber in this area...  And no IPv6 on any of the mobile providers...

I'm not aware of any mobile providers with IPv6 here either. :(


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