Subj : RIPE to run out of IPv4 this week?
To   : Andre Grueneberg
From : Michiel van der Vlist
Date : Tue Aug 21 2012 02:15:35

Hello Andre,

On Tuesday August 14 2012 22:35, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> I write it in quotes to indicate that it should not be taken
 MvdV>> too literally as in "no exceptions". More like "everyone" has a
 MvdV>> cell phone. (My 03 year old mother doesn't)

 AG> You mean like in fixed line telephones/telephone services are going to
 AG> die because everyone has got a cell phone? :->

 AG> Yes, I agree ... that will be similar to IPv4 and IPv6. ;)

No, I think that is not the same. There is no added value in keeping IPv4 alive when really everyone has IPv6. But that does not go for cel phone vs fixed line. Calls via a fixed line are much cheaper than via cell phone, so even if everyone has a cell phone, there  is still a reason to keep a fixed line.

Also: IPv4 and IPv6 do not interconnect, But there is no problem calling from a cell phone to a fixed line and vice versa.

 AG>>> When everyone has disposed off his 10 years old IPv4-only
 AG>>> printer?
 MvdV>> It will take as long as it took the printers with Centronic
 MvdV>> interfaces to fade out.

 AG> I still have mine. It's working great ... thanks for asking. ;)

Really? Can you still get ink for it?

 MvdV>> My T65 (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/T65) is still in working
 MvdV>> order. But I can't use it to make outgoing calls any more.
 MvdV>> Pulse dialling is no longer supported by what ever I can hook
 MvdV>> it ip to.

 AG> What? You might want to use a cheap ISDN a/b adapter (which usually
 AG> still support pulse dialing),

But why would I do that? I have plenty of analog phones that can do DTMF and if I didn't I can get one at the second life shop for less that what I pay for a beer in the pub. I still have some stuff in the "museum" that I can hook up to a pulse only phone, but what is the added value other than just that: the museum.

 AG>  attach it to your Fritzbox S0 interface and have fun.

I don't have ISDN. I skipped that. It is VOIP now. My VOIP adapter no longer supports pulse.

 AG> At least my ISDN hardware still supports pulse dialing on its
 AG> analogous ports.

ISDN is on the way out as well. As is the fax...

 AG>>> My point being: This day is far-far away. And for most people
 AG>>> Internet means business. Losing 1% of customers can make a huge
 AG>>> difference ... at least that was the excuse for slow IPv6
 AG>>> adoption.

 MvdV>> I think that was indeed just an excuse. Losing 1% of the
 MvdV>> customers may or may not be a big deal. It all depends what
 MvdV>> type of customers. The tail end of the curve is seldom
 MvdV>> profitable.

 AG> ... Gmail is not working (for one person) ... may be quite an
 AG> expensive incident.

Not for me. I stay away from Gmail...


Cheers, Michiel

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