Subj : RIPE to run out of IPv4 this week? To : Andre Grueneberg From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Fri Aug 03 2012 10:40:44 Hello Andre, On Friday August 03 2012 08:08, you wrote to me: MvdV>> Nono, I was not referring to the first IPv6 only customers. I MvdV>> was referring to the day that the first ISP that switches of MvdV>> all support for IPv4. That may take a lot longer. AG> Full ACK. Very long time ... Maybe not so long. AG> as long as there are legacy customers and IPv4-only content it'll be AG> hard switch off IPv4 for access providers. I wonder how long the situation of IPv4 only content will last. The big content providers will have no choice but to implement IPv6 when they start losing customers who are IPv6 only. Some big ones like google and youtube have already done so. Anyway, the US Veterans Affair Department has announced that they will switch off IPv4 in Oct 2014: http://tinyurl.com/69bg7vv AG> One day content providers could start relying on access providers to AG> support transition mechanisms ... but even that is questionable. Such as the SixXs IPv4 -> IPv6 gateways? I don't think that scales well. Besides it serves only one protocol. The SixXs gates are for http only. Who will make a gateway for Binkp? No use, might as well route the message via a dual stack binkp site. AG> Correct ... like any "standard" ... you can choose whether you'd like AG> to comply with it or not. But when buying systems/services you usually AG> make your requirements ... It is already three years ago that I decided not to buy new network equipment that is not IPv6 capable. The vendors were not impressed... ;-) AG> [IPv6 only services] AG>>> Star Wars ASCII in colors. MvdV>> What's the url? AG> Telnet URL? Well ok ... you can google it ... ;) AG> You'll also find it on http://www.sixxs.net/misc/coolstuff/ Ah, I didn't realise you contributed to the SixXs cool stuff. ;-) AG>>> Greetings from Tartu, Estonia ... MvdV>> How is the weather there? AG> It's fine ... but the wrong question ... AG> Correct one: Kas sul on IPv6 seal? You are there long enough to learn the language? AG> Answer: Not natively. :/ Tunnel? SixXs or he? Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320 * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555) .