Subj : What happens if a power supply lowers the voltage by 90% To : Richard Menedetter From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Mon Jan 16 2017 22:26:34 Hello Richard, On Monday January 16 2017 21:40, you wrote to me: MV>> But the fact that IPv4 space can be sold and that in order to do MV>> that, they have to retrieve address space from their "normal" MV>> customers indicates that adresses are scarse. RM> Sure ... but not scarce enough. RM> UPC has switched to DS-Lite by default for their ISP customers. UPC is a daughter of Liberty Global and switching to DS-Lite seems to be their global policy. RM> They also started a MVNO recently, and they are handing out PUBLIC v4 RM> (only, no V6) addresses. Very few people need public v4 addresses on RM> their mobiles. Here Ziggo ( also a daughter of Liberty Global) has entered into a partnership with Vodaphone. So they will be offering moble via the Vodaphone network. I do not know if they will offer IPv6, IPv4 or CGNAT. RM>>> So for me the conclusio is, that people who do not care will RM>>> loose their public v4 address. But anybody can get single v4 RM>>> addresses for relatively cheap. I predict that v4 addresses will RM>>> stay cheap for "white male computer nerds" (as you put it) MV>> I predict that eventually they will become worthless. When MV>> "everyone" has IPv6, there will no longer be a substantial demand MV>> for IPv4 and so the price will drop to zero. RM> I agree ... the question is when will this point in time be ... RM> I really do not know ... I do not know either. But as my fellow countryman and ex-Fidonetter Iljitsch van Beijnum already wrote in 2010: the transition will be ugly... http://preview.tinyurl.com/8ak9cy9 Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111 * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555) .