Subj : SixXs stops To : Michiel Van Der Vlist From : Richard Menedetter Date : Thu Apr 07 2016 20:30:14 Hi Michiel! 03 Apr 2016 23:24, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Richard Menedetter: RM>> I really do not understand why they do not throw in IPv6 in the RM>> mix ... But that is how it is :( MV> I think I can understand it. They are actually thinking ahead. An IPv6 MV> only network is less complicated than a dual stack network. And in the MV> end hat is what we will end up with anyway. So why not go for an IPv6 MV> only core network and as a transtion mechanism offer IPv4 via a MV> tunneling mechanism? Yeah ... maybe ;)) MV>>> But we want full dual stack. For now at least. RM>> Indeed! MV> As my fellow countryman, ex fidonet sysop and IPv6 Guru Iljitsch van MV> Beijnum remarked in his essays: the transition will be ugly... :-( And late ;) Wrote mythesis about mobile IPv6 in 2004 ... The IPv6 RFC was quit old even back then ... RM>> I am at UPC Austria ... this is a DS-Lite only area :( MV> So let me ask you and think about this carefully: how much would it MV> really hurt you to go DS-Lite? How much do you really need a public MV> IPv4 address? If push comes to shove, how much would you be willing to MV> pay for it? No IPv6 in the office, no IPv6 with many people, and most Fido nodes. I discussed that very point with the network architect of a big ISP, who was looking into PCP. I told him that offering IPv4 for 1 EUR/month makes much more sense ... I would be willing to pay that to get dual stack. PCP is a very braindead "solution" for DS-Lite port forwarding ... CU, Ricsi --- GoldED+/LNX * Origin: fido.ricsi.priv.at (2:310/31) .