Subj : SixXs stops To : Richard Menedetter From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Sun Apr 03 2016 23:24:28 Hello Richard, On Sunday April 03 2016 20:33, you wrote to me: RM>>> I could get it natively, but only at the price of going DS-Lite, RM>>> and loosing my public v4 address. RM>>> I am not willing to do that. MV>> I fully understand. I fully understand why you do not want to give up your public IPv4 address yet. RM> I really do not understand why they do not throw in IPv6 in the mix RM> ... But that is how it is :( I think I can understand it. They are actually thinking ahead. An IPv6 only network is less complicated than a dual stack network. And in the end hat is what we will end up with anyway. So why not go for an IPv6 only core network and as a transtion mechanism offer IPv4 via a tunneling mechanism? MV>> But we want full dual stack. For now at least. RM> Indeed! As my fellow countryman, ex fidonet sysop and IPv6 Guru Iljitsch van Beijnum remarked in his essays: the transition will be ugly... :-( MV>> As it is, it seems I am one of the few lucky ones that will still MV>> get a dual stack connection. Here two major cable companies UPC MV>> and Ziggo have done a merger. The continue undert the name of MV>> Ziggo. Ipv6 is being rolled out. But here is difference between MV>> the region formerly covered by UPC and the region covered by the MV>> old Ziggo. Former UPC gets DS-lite, former Ziggo gets dual stack. MV>> I am in the old Ziggo region. RM> I am at UPC Austria ... this is a DS-Lite only area :( So let me ask you and think about this carefully: how much would it really hurt you to go DS-Lite? How much do you really need a public IPv4 address? If push comes to shove, how much would you be willing to pay for it? MV>> Ziggo has been telling they will roll out IPv6 "later this MV>> year" for the last five years. Itseem that now they are actual;ly MV>> doing it and I have a little bit of hope that "this year" will MV>> actually be 2016. RM> I am holding my fingers crossed! So am I. ;-_) Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20130111 * Origin: 2001:470:1f15:1117::1 (2:280/5555) .