Subj : ISPs and their stone age POV To : Michiel van der Vlist From : Bj”rn Felten Date : Mon Jan 18 2016 07:52:28 MvdV> Those will have to be replaced anyway to upgrade to VDSL and VDSL+ in MvdV> order to keep up... That will never happen in Sweden TTBOMK. The VDSL train left our station many years ago. The entire xDSL technology is a blast from the past here. MvdV> Maybe the situation is different in Sweden, but here the ISPs MvdV> have no plans to dig up the copper. Here they first spent ten years digging down the copper, and then they replaced it with fibre -- albeit not yet everywhere... :( MvdV> There are several dsl providers here that offer native IPv6. Ask MvdV> Wilfred. Ask Kees. Lucky them. I don't know of any such provider here in Sweden. --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125 * Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2) .