Subj : Latest dump... To : Flavio Bessa From : Carol Shenkenberger Date : Sat Nov 11 2017 10:36:59 Re: Latest dump... By: Flavio Bessa to Bill McGarrity on Fri Nov 10 2017 10:41 am FB>>> That's fine. Any chances that this might have affected FB>>> other Synchronet FB>>> systems? BM>> Most likely those who updated between Oct. 31st and Nov. 5th. were BM>> affected. ANyone using sbbsecho below 3.49 and 3.51 were affected. BM>> Release 3.54 is now the current one which resolved the issue. FB> We have a few Synchronet nodes in Brazil, I'll let the Sysops know FB> about this. Thank you. Yes, I let a few of mine know but mostly I seem a hotbed of Mystic development folks. Best thing to pass to them Flavio, is auto-updating can have it's issues if it involves a tosser. Here's simple steps that maybe we can develop into something in an FTSC product line though the old 'How-To' FAQ set seems to have fallen by the wayside. ---- When swapping software, nodenumber or tossers, there can be issues causing duplicate messages going out. Any one of the 3 or any combination needs to be done carefully to prevent this. Shifting feeds and not properly detaching from the old feed, can also cause problems. {author note, adding that later if folks seem to want it, it's close but not addressed below} 1. The first step before you upgrade or change anything, is to deliver all outbound you have, or as much as you can. {author note: it's a bit more complex if you have downlinks and are changing node numbers, add details later at need} - Be sure to run a fresh outbound run and deliver that. - If you feed many, make a snapshot that shows what undeliverable files go to who. 2. Drop your mailer. This will stay down for the rest of the process to prevent exporting your message base. This is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. - Copy any undeliverable from your outbound directory to someplace your mailer knows nothing about. Now, delete all that are in your outbound directory. You will file attach them later. 3. Make a system backup of your BBS so you can roll back if something doesn't go right. - Now start reading any upgrade docs carefully depending on what you are doing. - It may be a smaller thing like just a tosser. Auto-updating tossers is generally not recommended. - Move any inbound you may have to a separate place your tosser doesnt know about. You will move this back later. 4. Once you have followed all the directions and placed the upgrade in place, run your outbound routine. You should see no outbound packets built. Exception, if you have any game leagues, you may produce tiny updates but they will be 1k. BRE is an example of that when running under SBBS and automation events. Those are harmless. - If you built anything significant other than a game packet, side line it to someplace else your tosser doesnt know about so you can look at it later. This is a duplicating message base. You will never put it back in outbound but it can be useful to see what was going on later. It can be especially ccritical to have that later for the developer. - Run your tosser outbound again. You should see nothing built (exception, potential tiny game packets again which depending on game, can happen every toss). - If you had untossed inbound, now copy it back to your inbound directory and make one more outbound toss. If you feed others, you should see a normal sized load for them. It you do not feed others, you should not see anything (again, except tiny game packets in a league game potentially). 5. Bring up your mailer again at last. If you had undeliverable files for downlinks, use the notes you took earlier and attach them to the correct sites. - Make a mailer run with your uplink. Watch and as soon as it ends, it is best to drop mailer again for a little bit to make sure your outbound is normal but that is only a triple protection. - {author note, this is where you can see you built packets for your old uplink if you swapped feeds but this FAQ doesn't go in depth on it. Can be added later but it means you forgot to remove the old uplink when you swapped so you are backfeeding from the new uplink to the old uplink.) ------ end draft Ok it's not perfect but I can move this to another area more appropriate since we are in election mode here to clear traffic, or wait for the election to finish if folks here want to help work on it as a ready resource. xxcarol --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS telnet://shenks.synchro.net (1:275/100) .