Subj : Re: Testing Synchronet To : Michiel van der Vlist From : Bill McGarrity Date : Thu Feb 16 2017 14:39:00 Hiya Miciel... -=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bill McGarrity <=- MvV> On Wednesday February 15 2017 17:48, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen: WvV>> So other software is flexible enough to not burp on none WvV>> compliant MSGID's. That doesn't make it correct though... BM> I'm sure if other software burped, then Rob would have taken care of BM> the problem. MvV> How can you be so sure there are no problems? That you have no MvV> problems, does not mean no ones else has problems. BM> Plus as mark stated, I don't think Rob has ever stated he followed the BM> FTS-0009 standard. MvV> While it is true that FTS-0009 is not a required standard, if one MvV> follows part of it, one has to follow all of it. It uses the MSGID MvV> identifier, it uses the eight digit hexadecimal serial number and it MvV> uses the REPLY kludge. So it follows FTS-0009 in part. Explicitly MvV> stated or not. By following part of FTS-0009 but not all of it, one is MvV> in violation of it. So what your saying, if I was traveling on a highway clearly marked for max speed of 120km/hr yet I was doing 90, then I'd be in violation? MvV> If one thinks one has a better way of identifying message in Fidonet MvV> than FTS-0009, by all means give it a try. But then use something else MvV> for the keyword! Don't use MSGID for something that does not follow MvV> FTS-0009. That is annoying - if not excessively annoying - as it could MvV> cause problems for others. Question is, has it caused 'excessively amnnoying" issues? I'm sure if it did then a complaint would have been filed. As I am not the author of the software but a user who finds it extremely efficient in moving mail with exceptional dupe detection, I'll leave it up to the masses and/or the author to answer your obviously biased question. BM> There are alot more problems with other software the FTSC needs to BM> concern themselves with other than a few extra characters in a MSGID MvV> Writing documentation is something that is not done in a spare hour. MvV> One has to do the research, write it down in an unambigious and clear MvV> way, and last but not least go through the cat hearding exercise of MvV> reaching concensus on it. It takes a lot of time and effort. Understood. I'm sure it takes 4 times the labor to write software such as the ones we both are using and yet, I still see Synch as freeware that has active support. Your point? MvV> And what for? Not for the salary end certainly not for the virgins in MvV> Valhalla! Sorry, I've already deflowered those virgins... snooze ya lose... ;) MvV> Do you really think it is all right to ignore and violate FTSC MvV> standards, just by refraining from stating to follow them? Violation is in the eyes of the beholder. As stated above, would you say I was in violation of the speed limit because it stated one thing and I was doing another that falls within the guidelines? MvV> Do you really think that is the right attitude to encourage all those MvV> volunteers to spend time and energy on it? Obviously, if zero issues are being felt across the FTN community then I would feel they'd be satisfied their work was followed. The path towards a goal may take different routes but as long as those routes are parallel with zero interaction issues then what's the problem? I guess you can call it building a better wheel that fits all. Be well... -- Bill Telnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.net Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:81 FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121 IRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697 Radio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/live .... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!! --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50 * Origin: TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJ (1:266/404) .