Subj : TZUTC To : Paul Quinn From : Carlos Navarro Date : Wed Aug 04 2021 16:38:17 03 Aug 2021 20:41, you wrote to me: CN>> @TZUTC: 0200 CN>> Anyway, in this message of yours, I see that Golded is showing me CN>> your local time. It looks to me like coming from the future. PQ> Yes, they are. Eight hours ahead of your clocks. I'm Australian. I know... well, actually I only knew you were in Australia. :-) I had checked the nodelist to find out what your TZ should be when I saw some message you posted before with Golded that, BTW, didn't have the TZUTC kludge. CN>> I had assumed that this kludge was used by FTN CN>> software and not just CN> something informative. :-/ PQ> It should be. But the Fidonet creator ghods didn't see the point when PQ> they were communicating only in the USA. In this era we should have PQ> message dates using UTC, and TZUTC values for ourselves, in order to PQ> calculate various time values for us (informational only). Anyway, the way it is, software can calculate the UTC date if the TZUTC kludge is present. In fact it seems that your T-Bird shows dates to you converted to your local time. In your previous reply you had this: "On 08/03/2021 04:12 PM, you wrote to Ward Dossche" ^^ and the local time of my message was 8:12 AM. I've checked several Jamnttpd servers and my T-bird shows different times for the same message: one shows the original local timestamp, another one converted for my timezone... I suppose that it depends on how it's configured or something. I'll check again later. Carlos --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707 * Origin: Costa Blanca, Spain (2:341/234.1) .