Subj : The FidoGazette Vol 18 Issue 08 To : All From : Sean Dennis Date : Mon Mar 28 2022 00:13:13 The FidoGazette Volume 18 Number 8 28 March 2022 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The alternative newsletter | THE FIDOGAZETTE | | for the Fidonet community! | | | _ | Compiled, edited, and published by | | / \ | Sean Dennis @ 1:18/200 | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | Published weekly on Mondays | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ )) | "Advertisements contain the only | | |__U__| / \// | truths be relied on in a newspaper." | | _//|| _\ / | -- Thomas Jefferson | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | | | | | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of the FidoGazette, please refer to the | | FidoGazette mast at the end of this newsletter. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 Spring Cleaning .......................................... 1 2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2 RIP: Creators of the GIF and TRS-80 ...................... 2 3. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 4 Fried Mozzarella Italiano ................................ 4 4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 5 Equal Opportunity Employer ............................... 5 5. THOUGHT OF THE WEEK ...................................... 6 6. ASCII ART ................................................ 7 Lightning ................................................ 7 7. FIDOGAZETTE BBS LIST ..................................... 8 8. FIDONET SOFTWARE LIST .................................... 11 9. FIDOGAZETTE INFORMATION .................................. 18 FGAZ 18-08 Page 1 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Spring Cleaning So I have been busy doing spring cleaning and doctors' appointments. I was recently diagnosed with asthma and have been dealing with that as well as my usual BBS stuff. Sadly I don't have a lot of content for this issue but I hope you like what I've put together. I always welcome your content for the 'Gazette! -- Sean FidoGazette Editor/Publisher ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 2 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= RIP: Creators of the GIF and TRS-80 From: https://tinyurl.com/57y5cjnh (theregister.com) Thank you, Stephen E. Wilhite for your seminal image format, and John Roach for your pioneering microcomputer Simon Sharwood, APAC Editor Thu 24 Mar 2022 // 08:00 UTC Two important figures in computing industry have died. Stephen E. Wilhite will be remembered as the creator of the Graphics Interchange Format -- the ubiquitous GIF -- and always insisted it be pronounced as "jif" with a soft "g". Those who pointed out that his preferred pronunciation was inconsistent or illogical were met with a stern: "They are wrong". Wilhite created the GIF when working at CompuServe -- a pioneering online service founded in 1969 and which, by the mid-1980s, had evolved to the point some users expected to see graphics when they dialled in to check their mails or chat in forums. Wilhite and his colleagues devised the GIF in 1987 to make image display possible on CompuServe. The format became a de facto standard and then enjoyed an enormous revival in the early 2000s thanks to its ability to display animations -- a feature greatly appreciated before the widespread advent of streaming video -- and later by users of social media. A family obituary for Wilhite states that he received a Webby Lifetime Achievement Award for the GIF and used his acceptance speech to again restate his preferred pronunciation for the file format he created. Wilhite and finished his career as chief architect from America Online (which acquired CompuServe in 1997). He died aged 74 and is survived by his wife Kathaleen, his son David, several stepchildren, 11 grandchildren and three great grandchildren. Many GIFs almost certainly found their way onto the TRS-80 -- an early personal microcomputer sold by Tandy through its network of Radio Shack stores. The computer was the brainchild of John Roach, who in the mid-1970s saw the growing market for personal computers sold as kits and decided a market existed for a pre-built machine. That machine was the TRS-80, and its $599.95 price tag (about $1050 in today's money) saw it sell strongly when it reached stores in 1977. And as Tandy ran over 8,000 stores at the time, the TRS-80 brought computers into the suburbs like no other previous machine. FGAZ 18-08 Page 3 28 Mar 2022 The TRS-80 is also of enormous importance because Tandy hired a pair of chaps named Bill Gates and Paul Allen to write software for the machine. In case you haven't been paying attention, they later founded a little company you may have heard of called "Microsoft". Roach had a long career at Tandy, becoming CEO in 1983 and holding that position until 1999. He passed at age 83 and is survived by his wife, their two daughters, six grandchildren, and a great-granddaughter. On behalf of our readers, The Register extends its condolences to Mr Roach's and Mr Wilhite's families. Both men made enormous contributions to our industry, and we feel sure that many readers' first experiences of computers or online communities involved the TRS-80 or CompuServe. If you'd like to share your CompuServe, TRS-80, or GIF stories, drop me a line and we may give these pioneers a reader-contributed farewell to match the one you helped us write for Sir Clive Sinclair. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 4 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06 Title: Fried Mozzarella Italiano Categories: Cyberealm, Italian Yield: 4 Servings 1 lb Mozzarella cheese, cut into 1 inch cubes 3 Eggs, well beaten 1/2 c Flour 3/4 c Italian season bread crumbs Vegetable oil Italian tomato sauce MMMMM--------------------ITALIAN TOMATO SAUCE------------------------- 2 cl Garlic, minced 1 tb Olive oil 1 cn 28 oz italian plum tomatoes, -chopped and undrained 1 lg Pinch of sugar 1 pn Salt 1 1/2 ts Italian seasoning 1 ds Pepper For the mozarella: 1. Dip the cheese cubes in egg, roll in flour, and dip in egg again. Then dip into bread crumbs. Place on waxed paper and chill 1 hour. 2. In a large saucepot or deep fat fryer, heat oil to 375F. Fry chilled cubes in hot oil; drain on paper towels. 3. Serve immediately with Italian Tomato sauce. For the Sauce: 1. Saute garlic in oil in a heavy skillet; stir in remaining ingredients. Bring to boil. 2. Reduce heat, simmer uncovered for 45 minutes or until mixture is thickened, stirring occasionally. Source: Stephanie Needham, Cyberealm BBS Watertown NY 9/92 Typed in MM format by Linda Fields, Cyberealm BBS Watertown NY 315-786-1120 MMMMM ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 5 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= NET HUMOR ================================================================= Equal Opportunity Employer A dog sees a "Now hiring" poster outside of a computer store. The poster reads: "Must be able to type. Must be able to program and must be bilingual. We are an equal opportunity employer." The dog takes the poster in his mouth and walks in. The manager spots the dog, and decides to humor it, pulling up a chair and a computer with a word processor. "Alright, if you want to work here, you need to first write a letter." and leaves the room. 30 minutes later, he comes back in, and the dog has typed out a completely error-free letter. "Well, I'll be. This is a smart dog. But can he program?" he asks himself. 20 minutes pass and the dog has made a perfectly running website for the store. Shocked, he looks at the dog, and finally speaks. "Look, I know you have the qualifications, but well--you're a dog." The dog nudges the words "We are an equal opportunity employer." on the poster and the manager sighs. "There's no way you're bilingual." The dog looks him in the eyes and says "Meow." ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 6 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= THOUGHT OF THE WEEK ================================================================= I tried to say, "I'm a functional adult," but my phone changed it to "fictional adult," and I feel like that's more accurate. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 7 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= ASCII ART ================================================================= Lightning Here's some ASCII art by Joan Stark about a phenomenon that is only too common around my home this time of year... -=[ lightning ]=- 7/97 _, .--. ( / ( '-. jgs .-=-. ) -. / ( .' . \ \ ( ' ,_) ) \_/ (_ , /\ ,_/ '--\ `\--` _\ _\ `\ \ _\_\ `\\ \\ -.'.`\.'.- ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 8 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= FIDOGAZETTE BBS LIST ================================================================= The FidoGazette BBS List Maintained by Sean Dennis (1:18/200) Updated 25 March 2022 Total systems listed: 11 BBSes are listed in alphabetical order. ----------------------------------------------------------------- BBS Name: Central Ontario Remote Sysop name: Mick Manning Fidonet AKA: 1:229/307 BBS Software: Mystic Telnet address/Phone #: centralontarioremote.com:2323 Website: http://centralontarioremote.com:8080 Desc: Home of the musician's network, BluesNET. BBS Name: Imzadi Box Sysop name: Anna Christina Nass Fidonet AKA: 2:240/5824 BBS Software: Synchronet Telnet address/Phone #: box.imzadi.de Website: http://box.imzadi.de/ Desc: Small BBS with several games and message networks. FTN hub of WeedNet (Zone 420) BBS Name: Outpost BBS Sysop name: Sean Dennis (digimaus/KS4TD) Fidonet AKA: 1:18/200 BBS Software: MBSE BBS Telnet: bbs.outpostbbs.net ports 23 or 10123 Website: outpostbbs.net Desc: The home of Cheepware, The Micronet Information Network, the FidoGazette, and the Ham Distribution Network SDS. A MBSE BBS Dev Team test system. BBS Name: Palantir BBS Sysop name: Dan Clough (AKA Gamgee) Fidonet AKA: 1:123/115 BBS Software: Synchronet Telnet address: palantirbbs.ddns.net Desc: Multiple echomail networks, old-school filebase and several CDROMs online. Lots of Doom/Quake/Duke stuff. Many local and BBSLink doors. New callers welcome! BBS Name: PiBBS Sysop name: Shaun Buzza Fidonet AKA: McDoob BBS Software: Mystic Telnet address/Phone #: pibbs.sytes.net:23 Website: pibbs.sytes.net (not enabled) FGAZ 18-08 Page 9 28 Mar 2022 Desc: When you build a BBS on a Pi, you have a PiBBS! BBS Name: < FRONT-END/INTERNET MAILERS Argus |MI*? |http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products | | /argus/ | | v3.210 on 2001-03-29 BinkleyTerm XE |MO* |http://btxe.sourceforge.net | | 2.60XE Beta-XH7 on 2000-10-22 BinkD |MI? |http://binkd.grumbler.org | | gul@gul.kiev.ua 2:463/68 | | v.1.0.4 | | v.1.1a-113 (alpha) | | ftp://cvs.happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft | | /mailer/binkd/ | |http://www.filegate.net/r50/aftnbinkd/ D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.dbridgemailer.com |I | support@dbridgemailer.com 1:1/130 Nick Andre | | v4.00 on 2022-02-12 FGAZ 18-08 Page 12 28 Mar 2022 FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.datenbahn.dd-dns.de/ | | cdp/fp_deluxe/ | | v2.4 on 2003-09-26 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MITPC|http://www.defsol.se Definite Solutions |E | sales@defsol.se | | FD v2.33ml, FD/APX v1.15 InterMail |MCPE |http://www.Intermail.net 1:106/201 Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net | | IM v2.60 on 2017-08-28 Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sourceforge.net/ |EO? | v1.9 RC2 on 2010-04-20 Taurus |MI |http://www.fidotel.com/public/forums/ (based on Radius) |? | taurus/index.htm | | v5.0 on 2006-06-12 | | T-Mail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru (Russian only) |? | v2608 on 2001-12-12 AfterShock |MTEI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/ Asvcorp | | details?id=com.asvcorp.aftershock Anatoly Vdovichev | | rudi.timmer@gmx.com 2:292/140 Rudi Timmermans | | v1.6.7 on 2017-11-19 HotDogEd |E |https://play.google.com/store/apps/ Sergey Pushkin | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141 HotDogEd FidoNet |MTI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/ Provider | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged.fido Sergey Pushkin | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> MAIL TOSSERS Crashmail II |TO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/ | | crashmail.html FastEcho |T |http://www.softeq.de/old/Products | | /FastEcho/fastecho.html | | v1.46.1 on 2007-11-13 | | Registration keys are free & available | | by request from the author Fidogate |TUI? |http://www.fidogate.org | | v4.4.10 on 2004-08-27 | | FMail |TO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/ | | v2.0.1.4 on 2017-04-21 FGAZ 18-08 Page 13 28 Mar 2022 InterEcho |T |http://www.Intermail.net 1:220/60 Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net | | IE 1.20 on 2017-08-28 JetMail: JetSys |TU | (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on 2000-01-01 Squish |T* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/ | | v1.11R2 on 2009-01-01 | | Source code available in Maximus BBS | | archive: http://maximus.sourceforge.net WWIVToss |T |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/ | | v1.51 on 2015-05-23 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> BBS SOFTWARE BBBS |BICTM|http://www.bbbs.net 2:222/2 | | b@bbbs.net | | v4.01 on 2007-01-28 EleBBS |BO*? |http://www.elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on 2002-06-09 Enthral BBS |B |http://enthralbbs.com Linux/BSD/OSX | | v0.429/Alpha on 2010-10-14 | | Fidonet filebone SCENEENT Ezycom BBS |BT* |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com 3:690/682 | | v2.15g2 on 2009-11-16 GT Power |B |http://www.gtpowerbbs.com/ | | v19.00 Hermes II Project |BT |http://www.hermesbbs.com/ Macintosh-based | | malyn@strangegizmo.com | | v3.5.10b3 Maximus BBS |BO* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/ | | v3.03 | | Source code available at: | | http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ MBSE BBS |BMTFI|https://sourceforge.net 1:1/119 |PO | /projects/mbsebbs | | ajleary@sourceforge.net | | v1.0.7.24 on 2022-01-06 Meltdown BBS |UIO |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/ | | v1.0b on 2004-04-26 Mystic BBS |BMTCE|http://www.mysticbbs.com |I | v1.12 A46 on 2020-08-26 FGAZ 18-08 Page 14 28 Mar 2022 NiKom BBS (Amiga) |BO |http://www.nikom.org | | v2.3.1 on 2017-07-01 RemoteAccess BBS |B? |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW on 2000-10-25 Renegade BBS |B |http://renegadebbs.info 1:129/305 | | v1.25/DOS on 2021-05-16 Spitfire BBS |B? |http://www.buffalocrk.com/ | | mdwoltz@buffalocrk.com | | v3.7 on 2010-01-01 Synchronet BBS |BMTIO|http://www.synchro.net 1:103/705 | | v3.19b on 2022-01-02 Telegard BBS |B* | | | v3.09g2-sp4/mL on 1999-12-19 WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Software, Inc. | | v8.0 AUP 454.12 on 2021-05-14 WWIV BBS |B |http://www.wwivbbs.org | | v5.6.1 on 2021-04-23 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> TIC PROCESSORS/FILEFIX/SRIF Allfix |FIUT |http://www.allfix.com/ 1:218/720 Ken Johnson | | v6.1.0 on 2019-02-02 NEF/pk |F |http://nefpk.8m.com/ | | v2.45b2 on 2000-03-05 TinyTIC |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net | | /tinytic.html VIReq |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net | | /vireq.html +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> BBS DOORS/UTILITIES Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net/cheepware.html Sean Dennis | | sysop@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200 | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE DDS (Doorware |D@ |http://www.doorgames.org Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | FGAZ 18-08 Page 15 28 Mar 2022 Jibben Software |D* |http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ | | bbs-door-games.cfm | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates John Dailey Software |DU |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com Shining Star |D* |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | | nannette@shiningstar.net | | Doors are registerable via website Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 T1ny's Software |DU |http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/tsoft/ Shawn Highfield | | shighfield@gmail.com 1:229/452 | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com | | 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D* |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software |DU* |http://vbsoft.dhakota.org | | d@dhakota.org | | Last update: 2008-04-11 WWIVEdit |DE |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/ | | v3.0 on 2011-06-27 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ +- - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> POINT SOFTWARE APoint |PI |https://stargate.org.uk/apoint/ | | v1.25 on 2001-12-12 (Win32) | | Needs the binkD Toolkit for Fido-over-IP | | which is available from the above URL. CrossPoint |P |http://www.crosspoint.de | | pm@crosspoint.de | | v3.12d on 1999-12-22 (DOS, Shareware) FreeXP |PO |http://www.freexp.de | | support@freexp.de | | v3.42 on 2020-09-25 (DOS) OpenXP |PIO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/openxp5/ | |https://openxp.uk/ | | dev@openxp.uk FGAZ 18-08 Page 16 28 Mar 2022 | | v5.0.51 on 2021-12-26 | | (Win32, Linux(64-Bit}) WinPoint |PI |http://www.winpoint.org/ | | Tim Schattkowsky 2:240/1120.29 | | v398.2 on 2022-02-06 (Win32) +- - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> SYSOP MAIL EDITORS GoldEd+ |EO |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/ | | v1.1.5 (Snapshot) on 2015-11-30 | | NOTE: Unstable versions released often SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de 2:2476/493 | | v1.15 on 1999-12-15 | | Website is in German and English +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> INTERNET UTILITIES Ifmail |UIO |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net | | crosser@average.org Internet Rex |UI? |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 | | v2.29 on 2001-10-21 JamNNTPd |UIO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net | | /jamnntpd.html | | 1:120/544 Luckygate |UO | ftp://happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft/gate | | /lgate | | gul@gul.kiev.ua MakeNL |UO |http://makenl.sourceforge.net | | v3.5.0 on 2019-05-06 RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects | | /ftrack-as 2:5080/102 | |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net | | v1.32 on 2011-04-29 TransNet |UIO? |http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/ | | transnet/index.html | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on 2007-09-13 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ ==> INFORMATIONAL WEBSITES/BBS LISTS FGAZ 18-08 Page 17 28 Mar 2022 Telnet/Dialup BBS |# |http://www.telnetbbsguide.com 1:275/89 Guide | | Maintained by Dave Perrussel | | This is probably the most updated BBS | | list on the Internet for a general | | BBS list. Synchronet BBS List |# |http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html | | Maintained automatically | | This list is specifically for | | Synchronet-based BBS systems and is | | automatically updated nightly. The BBS Corner |# |http://www.bbscorner.com | | This website is more than just files, | | it's an encyclopedia of knowledge for | | BBS sysops and people who want to | | become sysops. This site is run by | | the same person who does the Telnet | | BBS Guide. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org (site is no longer maintained) http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu (OS/2 specific) http://www.filegate.net/ (FTP access via port 60721) http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/ Note: Most also provide FTP access (use ftp instead of http above) The BBS Software List is published weekly in the FidoGazette. If you have corrections, suggestions or additions to the information above, please contact Andrew Leary with your information via the FIDOGAZETTE echo or netmail at 1:320/219. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FGAZ 18-08 Page 18 28 Mar 2022 ================================================================= FIDOGAZETTE INFORMATION ================================================================= The FidoGazette is a weekly publication for the sysops and users of Fidonet. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. The opinions expressed in these articles belong to those authors and are not necessarily those of the FidoGazette or its editorial staff. This newsletter has no offical association with the Fidonet administration or the Fidonews and is edited and published by an independent editorial staff. 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