Subj : This echo To : Michiel van der Vlist From : August Abolins Date : Mon Jan 17 2022 09:20:00 Hello Michiel! ** On Monday 17.01.22 - 10:32, you wrote to me: M> The principle of "the burden of proof is on the one making M> the claim" is used in science. That is where I come from. My understanding of "burden of proof" (BOP) is that it only comes into play when the claim is of an accusatory nature: in a dispute. Same thing applies when filing insurance claims, criminal claims, etc.. All of those types have a root damage associated with the claim. Sean's claim does not encompass damages or harm. Sean's claim was not a dispute. It was a statement. Your response was accusatory (possibly harmful to character) that his statement was false, thus the burden was on you. HOWEVER, I read that BOP can also apply in science where a certain claim is made, and thus the BOP is on the scientist. But I doubt that BOP is an issue unless the scientist ends up in litigation, where a harm is associated with the claim. This echo transfer matter issue is far from a harmful nature. And, as I pointed it out it is very easy for Janis to have communicated the necessary password for elist purposes. Occam's razor comes to mind. ;) No need to delve into complex theories of foul play. That's much more complicated. -- ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.51 * Origin: (2:221/1.58) .