Subj : RE: create new message template To : All From : DAVE GOURD Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:17:14 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:28:30 -0400 From: DAVE GOURD To: HECTOR SANTOS Subject: RE: create new message template Newsgroups: winserver.public.gamma.testing Message-ID: <1174926510.40.1174861092@winserver.com> References: <1174861092.40.1174844711@winserver.com> X-WcMsg-Attr: Rcvd X-Mailer: Wildcat! Interactive Net Server v7.0.454.5 Lines: 123 Now we're making progress, I figured it was a matter of terminology. I have heard of Pareto's Principle, have to go study it a bit - sounds interesting and applicable to many things. Granted, it (adding the logic and troubleshooting) would entail extra effort that would only benefit a few people for a short time (in re the first timers/novices). For my use or that of experienced users it would be a waste of time. (however an 'unsend' feature would have been nice for me here a couple weeks ago ;) - this is not a request; there is no such animal) That a reset or cancel needs to be an additional button may not really necessary, but perhaps would be most obvious or simple to logically put in place if it were instituted. I think it would not be well placed within the logic of the confirmation block presented AFTER clicking on 'post message' or send or whatever it may be. If I don't want to post or send it, why would I click on post/send? - at that point my immediate assumption would be 'if I click post or send, then it's out of here'. And if/when I do click post (or send), and the confirmation gives me a choice of post or cancel, so what? If I click post, it [apparently] sends the msg on its way and gives me an opportunity to go back reading messages. But what happens if I click cancel - does it NOT send the msg and return to the same [now unsent] form? Does it clear the form and leave me hanging there wondering what to do next? (I know what it does actually - just theoretical from a 3rd party view) I don't mean to suggest that ANY box or window need to be 'closed' per se by cancelling or resetting (forgive me for using the 2 interchangeably), just that one could have an option PRIOR to post message if one's mind has changed about sending an email they had started to compose. I really hadn't considered the 'close' option specifically; it doesn't have to 'close', just present an alternative to post only. For clarification with regard to the topic of not sending a msg, in my eyes I would suppose the following: ** Cancel - abort the operation; I do not want send whatever I may have entered/typed if anything, I want to do something else (or start over). IOW - I changed my mind about sending it, I want peace of mind knowing the msg would not be sent if I click on something else beside 'post message'. Cancel is better suited as it is - in the post confirmation. ** Reset - clear the form; I want to start the process over again, whatever I may have entered/typed in the form is now tossed into a bit bucket, nullified, cancelled, abort, etc. Reset would be be utilized PRIOR to post - I can choose to send or clear the form, the addition of a cancel prior to post would be beneficial aborting the whose process. hmmm - create msg - current form V |> post > send > go back to reading V V V cancel > don't send, goto back to current form V |> reset > clear form > goto create msg V |> cancel > don't send, clear form It was just a thought, I appreciate your consideration of the matter but don't make it a priority, you have bigger and better fish to fry even this takes up your time. -- Dave Gourd FoxRiver.Net On 2007-03-25 5:18 PM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD: -> On 2007-03-25 12:45 PM, DAVE GOURD wrote to HECTOR SANTOS: -> -> > Just something to at least clear the text box for peace of mind... -> > -> > Maybe my terminolgy is lacking - let's think reset fields? Don't need 2 -> extra -> > buttons, one or the other as applicable. -> > -> > Another example attached... -> > -> > -- -> -> Gotcha, I will put this done as something to consider. -> -> Just a small point about how I sometimes view things - I am a firm believer -> of Pareto's Principle (Google it if you not familar). Essentially, -> sometimes we can't get too crazy about making things "perfect" to cover -> every aspect possible, but a good majority of the time, it will only apply -> for a small percentage of the time. Some might call that the "First Time -> Syndrome." Its a rethorical question? Is the feature needed after the -> first time? -> -> Specifically, I think you are right, that a RESET should only clear the -> fields. But is that really the same thing of addressing the "issue" of -> "CANCELING" or closing the box or etc? Is that what was ultimatelly being -> addressed? To give the user the "confirmation" there is no mail to be -> posted? That it was "Cleared" therefore, there is nothing to "post? -> -> Again, I am not saying your wrong, but IMO, it is not a clear cut answer, -> and adding the extra buttons may or may not be any better. Probably -> wouldn't hurt, but it is worth the effort if we are only dealing with the -> "First Time Syndrome?" Again, these are rethoritcal questions. But I -> definitely see the CLOSE/CANCEL button when the box is in its OWN windows -> as it is when you click the write direct email icon in the who's online. -> -> -- -> HLS -> -> -> -> -> -> --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .