Subj : Soup(-)making.... 1. To : Ardith Hinton From : alexander koryagin Date : Fri Jul 06 2018 22:01:01 From: "alexander koryagin" F2EP Hi, Ardith Hinton! How are you? on Wednesday, 02 of October, I read your message to alexander koryagin about "Soup(-)making.... 1." ak>> A soup kitchen? What is it? I always thought that kitchen ak>> is a room to prepare any food. AH> From my OXFORD CANADIAN DICTIONARY: AH> soup kitchen [n.] AH> a place where warm meals, usu. soup, are served AH> to the needy for little or no charge. AH> While such places may offer other items from time to time, I AH> imagine soup is typically on the menu because it's a cheap & easy AH> way to feed a crowd when a particular organization depends on who AH> chose to donate what this week. :-)) In other word "soup kitchen" is a print advertisement telling "you can come in for lunch, but don't count on more than soup." ;-) ak>> (???... that a kitchen is THE room... which article is more ak>> correct?) AH> I would say "a". In Vancouver there are various churches & other AH> charitable organizations which offer such services on a regular AH> basis. It's also possible, though not common, for a single-family AH> residence to have more than one kitchen. Some Jewish families have AH> two because it's easier to keep kosher that way. Some folks from AH> India & other parts of Asia where extended families often live AH> together tell us they prefer two. And I understand that years AH> ago... before the advent of electric fans, of air conditioning, and AH> of cookstoves which didn't take an hour or two to finish heating AH> up... a lot of farm families on the North American prairies had AH> summer kitchens attached to the exterior of their houses. If you AH> imagine what it's like preserving food with a method which requires AH> boiling large amounts of water for a long time, during the heat of AH> August... it's hot work even in this area, where we don't have a AH> mountain range & eighteen hours by train between us & the ocean. AH> :-) Indeed, in our apartments we have different rooms and one of them is a kitchen, if you don't prefer a kitchen island in your dining room. But if you live in prairie you can easily have different outhouses for every purpose a human needs. The distance between separate buildings depends on the climate in winter. ;-) ak>> But when we make "soup-making" we mean a single word. AH> Uh-huh. In some cases this might be an intermediate step between AH> (using the same example) "soup making" and "soupmaking", however. AH> One of my Canadian-born relatives, who would be 100 years old if AH> she were still alive, spelled "today" & "tomorrow" with a hyphen... AH> and I've noticed this spelling in books from the early 20th AH> century. Now, North American recipes often use "teaspoon" & AH> "tablespoon" as measurements. Both are in such common use that we AH> even have abbreviations for them. So why would people write the AH> names of some kinds of spoons as one word & others as two?? IMHO we AH> tend to condense terms like this as time goes by & we become more AH> familiar with them.... :-) But if I write a formal message or I translate a book I should probably check a dictionary. If I find a complex word it's OK, but if it isn't there probably I should write the two words separately, without a hyphen. Shouldn't I? [...If your husband started to look in your eyes, put yourself on a diet] Bye Ardith! Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91 fido7.english-tutor 2013 --- ifmail v.2.15dev5.4 * Origin: Demos online service (2:5020/400) .