Subj : Old stuff To : Ardith Hinton From : Alexander Koryagin Date : Sat Feb 05 2022 16:58:52 Hi, Ardith Hinton - Alexander Koryagin! I read your message from 05.02.2022 01:26 AK>> Is "the" in "Bill Clinton, the President of United States of AK>> America" correct? AH> The article is optional with words like "president". AH> The definite article is required in "The United States of America" AH> because that is the official name of the country. In the common AH> parlance we often say "the US" or something similar... i.e. AH> retaining the article. "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and AH> Northern Ireland" is treated in the same manner. Colloquially, we AH> often refer to it as "the UK". AH> WRT official titles like "President of the United States", or AH> even "former President of the United States", the article may be AH> left out. Among Fidonetters this title may be abbreviated as "the AH> POTUS". But AFAIK none of them are journalists, who say things AH> like "US President Joe Biden". In such cases they are using the AH> abbreviated name of the country as an adjective. I can't think of AH> anybody else, however, who would actually say that... [grin]. AH> In case my last paragraph left you & others a bit confused, I will AH> share with you my own experience as an actress in an elementary AH> school play. Years ago, when only formal English was allowed in the AH> classroom, one of the lines I memorized was "I'm So-and-So, AH> president of the Ladies' Flower Club." IOW... I regard this usage AH> as well established & therefore have no objection when others AH> employ it in reference to some author, movie director, etc. If I were invented English rules, I put it simpler. The article "the" can be omitted if you are sure that the thing or person, you are speaking about, is unique in general. In other words -- we don't need "the" before "author" from my example because the author of a particular book is unique as a rule. The same with American president, prime minister, head master. So: I went to school to meet with headmaster. Capital of the US is Washington. Composer of "Moon sonata" is Beethoven. After school I went home. Head is part of body. Are there any examples how to disprove my rule? ;-) Bye, Ardith! Alexander Koryagin english_tutor 2022 --- * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0) .