Subj : New Year's Day. To : Alexander Koryagin From : Anton Shepelev Date : Wed Feb 24 2021 00:18:36 Alexander Koryagin to Anton Shepelev: AS>> A language does not consist of words. It merely has AS>> them. You may say that the vocabulary consist[s] of AS>> words. AK> A machine has details or consists of details? A machine consists of details, but a language does not con- sist of words because words do not constitute a language. There is much more to language than a set of words. AK> When they (the Russian animators) record sound they very AK> often speed up voices and dialogues. No, not often. AK> A funny film demands speed and dynamic. The artificial speed and dynamics (not dynamic!) of a sped- up tape is not the best idea. Imperial records used to speed-up the Fasts Domino phonograms before release. They did it for two purposes: to add "dynamics" and to make them harder to cover. The negative effect of the speed-up was so tremendous that Ace records had to release them on CD at their correct pitch. AK> Our famous Winnie-the-Poor also speaks quicker than the AK> actor who voiced him. That is true. But looky -- your spell-checker did not help you spell the name correctly, eh? AK> You don't understand -- most Russian people should gain AK> skills in quick word processing if they want to under- AK> stand quick English speech. First, your recommendation is not entirely exact, because learners need to train their speech-recognition (word-pro- cessing, as you call them) skills in the language they are learning. There is no such thing as the general, language- agnostic speech-recognition skills. Second, your advice is true for any other learner of any other language. AS>> I should never recommend this with real speech, because AS>> that way you lose all emotional content. While remas- AS>> tering AK> When my aim is focused on training my speed skills I AK> don't pay too much attention on such details. Good for you, but I grow bored and disgusted when exposed to second-rate content. When the material is good, however, learning anything becomes a pleasure. AK> Besides -- you can watch two time more shows and movies. Good for you, but I go for quality instead of quantity. AK> It is shame to spend time watching serials -> I should agree if your sentence ended here, but you contin- ue: AK> -> in Russian, but if you speed them up you waste less AK> time and get more hearing skills. You mean TV series? English or Russian ones? In my opinion, TV series almost never rise to the level of art and remain a sort of cultural cud. I did moderately enjoy "Downton Abbey", though, when it was screened on our "Kultura" chan- nel, ad-free. Most good TV series are by today's measures either very short or otherwise non-conventional, e.g. the original Rod Serling's "Twilight Zone", or Tatiana Liozno- va's "Seventeen moments in spring." AK> IMHO, first, a learner should learn how to hear and un- AK> derstand quick speech. Then he can enjoy emotions. I beg to differ, for emotions facilitate both understanding and learing. --- * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0) .