Subj : Misinterprestation To : Wayne Harris From : Anton Shepelev Date : Tue Aug 04 2020 13:59:08 Wayne Harris to Anton Shepelev: > I see your use of commas match my intuition about them, > but I, so far, have not found an English grammar, or any > book, that would clearly spell out these rules to me. I have never consulted grammar books about punctutation, but I recommend to you the following books from my definitive list of manuals of English Grammar: 1. The Grammar of English Grammars, by Goold Brown 2. Manual of English Grammar and Composition, by John Nesfield > If I may, let me ask some questions. My intuition says I > should always isolate a vocative in between commas. ``Hi, > Anton.'' However, I pretty much never see anyone writing > that way. Isn't that a grammar rule? Of course, your intuition is both logical and grammarical. Nesfield, for example, says under rule 214 (c) for the placement of the comma: After the Nominative of an address-- Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears. > You wrote ``furthermore, [...]''. That also matches my > intuition. But I often see people ignoring this comma. I put that comma because I should pause there were I speaking. > Perhaps this is an optional comma. Is it? What is the > book you go to to cite such rules? I don't think it optional but Nesfield disagrees: After an adverbial phrase at the commencement of a sentence (Here, however, the use of the comma is optional): In fact, his poetry is no better than prose. --- * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0) .