Subj : for discussion To : Anton Shepelev From : Ardith Hinton Date : Wed Jul 22 2020 21:52:24 Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton: AH> Also being pedantic, I think of the businessman in London AH> who never opens his neatly furled umbrella because it would AH> require so much time & effort to restore the thing to its AH> original condition whereas many people around these parts AH> don't seem to bother trying. AS> Being one of such men, I know what you mean. Luckily, my AS> father taught me to furl an umbrella nice and tidy in a AS> jiffy, so now I feel a quiet superiority over people I AS> meet with poorly furled umbrellas. Mine is reasonably neat, but not up to London standards. :-) AS> Even clerks in fashion boutiques can't furl them as well AS> as I do! On the basis of my own experience, I'm not surprised. If you hadn't already acquired this skill I'd recommend consulting the folks at a traditional haberdashery which offers "men's furnishings" or "gentlemen's apparel".... :-Q AH> I see that my CANADIAN OXFORD defines "furl" as meaning AH> "roll up and secure". AS> Does really "roll up" an umbrealla? I'd say so. Once closed it can be rolled around the equivalent of a tent pole... officially known as the "shaft"... and secured by a matching piece of cloth with snap fasteners or Velcro or whatever on both ends. :-) --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716) .