Subj : their bid has been beaten into submission To : Dallas Hinton From : Alexander Koryagin Date : Fri Jan 10 2020 08:16:30 Hi, Dallas Hinton! ->Alexander Koryagin I read your message from 09.01.2020 22:57 AK>> https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51040336 DH> [...] AK>> What a strange expression -- "their bid has been beaten into AK>> submission". By the scientists themselves? I would understand the AK>> phrase like "The robbers beat their victim into submission", but AK>> this one... DH> It IS a rather unusual usage, but it's a legitimate use and does DH> convey the idea! :-) When robbers beat their victim into submission they actually become winners. When scientists beat their bid into submission -- I would say they gain what they wanted. The horse of the problem had been trained. :-) Bye, Dallas! Alexander Koryagin english_tutor 2020 --- * Origin: nntps://fidonews.mine.nu - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0) .