Subj : A rule needed :) To : Paul Quinn From : Ardith Hinton Date : Sat Dec 07 2019 23:46:48 Hi, Paul! Recently you wrote in a message to Alexander Koryagin: AK> Maybe it is better to remove "position"?: AK> "...but, IMHO, also there is no ground to suggest that a AK> stenographer is as unique in a firm as its President." PQ> You're getting a little lost. The statement is one of fact. PQ> In days long past there was a time of one-to-one direct PQ> professional relationships between a senior executive (say, PQ> president) and the organisation's (sole) stenographer. Yes... I noticed that in the school system. The senior "secretary" took dictation when the principal wanted to send a letter, worked overtime to attend & make notes at important meetings, and typed out the results. People who do this sort of work are often quite skilled at correcting other people's errors in spelling & grammar too, including my own... [blush]. PQ> A good stenographer is worth a dozen typists. Thankyou. My mother was a stenographer. Like the "secretary" at a small school she had various other duties as well. But she told me that when she was taking "business courses" she chose to learn bookkeeping & shorthand, both of which were elective subjects, while the majority of people apparently didn't believe they would be successful or couldn't be bothered. PQ> In days of old, I had a 24 year long career and knew of PQ> only two stenographers at that workplace. As my father might have said, they're "as scarce as hens' teeth"... especially nowadays. When I mentioned to one of our daughter's young friends awhile ago that my mother was a stenographer she didn't understand what I was referring to although she herself has a university degree. Stenographers may have been done a disservice by the common tendency to lump them together with anybody who can type, use a copying machine, and answer the phone. Years ago there were jokes about the "steno pool"... more likely a "typing pool" AFAIC. And I agree that recording devices may have changed the picture as well. ;-) --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716) .