Subj : A rule needed :) To : Ardith Hinton From : Anton Shepelev Date : Thu Oct 31 2019 14:15:18 Ardith Hinton to Anton Shepelev: AS>>>>> On my way to work I have encountered a difficult AS>>>>> case AS>>>> Omit "have". AK>>> The information about the case is connected with the AK>>> present time (you haven't put the time mark). AK>>> Therefore, IMHO, the present perfect time was correct. AS>> No, the Present Perfect is harly [AS: hardly] possible AS>> here because "on my way to work" clearly indicates a AS>> past time and makes the whole sentence narrative. AH> IMHO the issue may have a lot to do what is or isn't a AH> "time marker". Well, I dislike this term in particular, and prefer in general to analyse grammar based on the intended maning, using terminology as an aid rather than as the primary instrument. From that viewpoint, nothing can depend on a defintion of a term. The sentence is correct or wrong (or a gradation in between!) regardless of what terms we use to discuss it. AH> I regard your correction as an improvement because I AH> imagine you mean something along the lines of "On my way AH> to work today, before I was able to relax at home & AH> catch up on my echomail, I noticed [blah blah] in the AH> comedy of manners I was reading on the bus". Sort of that thing, yes -- I simply wrote of an event that had occured with me (or to me?) earler. It is not a "been there, done that" kind of statement. Do you think all Wilde's plays comedies of manners? AH> Alexander may be thinking more of Freddy in MY FAIR AH> LADY, who informs the audience "I have often walked down AH> this street before".... :-) I have not read that one, but the line you quoted has a "habutual" meaning, if I may say so, for it does not refer to a specific event in the past. I wot not how Alexander might have misinterpreted my sentence in this way. It does not have "often" or another word indicating a habit and repetition... --- * Origin: nntps://fidonews.mine.nu - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0) .