Subj : Women don't like rain To : Dallas Hinton From : Alexander Koryagin Date : Wed Jul 03 2019 12:40:42 Hi, Dallas Hinton! I read your message from 02.07.2019 13:14 AS>>> Not at all, and Dallas Hinton explained it well that in this AS>>> phrase!?! horse' is uncountable becauase denotes a substance. In AS>>> Shakespeare, however,!?! snail' certainly refers to the whole AS>>> individual animal. Observe that Americans use!?! pie' AS>>> uncountably, too, e.g.: "We had tea and apple pie". AK>> Horse is a substance? ;) DH> One of the problems here is that many nouns can be both countable DH> and uncountable, depending on context. To confuse things DH> further, "horse" is a street name for cocaine (or at least, used to DH> be -- dunno if that's still true!) DH> When we say "tea and apple pie", we actually mean "a cup of tea and DH> a piece of apple pie" (or perhaps several cups and pieces, DH> depending on greed, appetite, and the host's offerings!). DH> Now - "horse" in the powder form is uncountable (without a DH> microscope!) but can be measured in grams (or variants). In the DH> animal form, a herd of horses is confusing, because while the DH> number of horses in a herd can be counted but the word "herd" isn't DH> usually. Nonetheless, we might talk about there being a number of DH> herds of wild horses in the US midWest... and we could count them. DH> I guess what I'm really saying is that we shouldn't get too hung up DH> on the concept of countable vs. noncountable -- do what makes sense DH> and remember that the English language is a hodge-podge of words DH> and phrases stolen from any other language that will hold still DH> long enough to be robbed! Anton has told me that you told me that King Arthas smelled like horse (without an article) because horse was a substance. Did you tell it? I don't remember. ;) Although I liked more Mark's explanation: -----Beginning of the citation----- Well... In short, a grammatically correct phrase would have been too awkward in this situation. ;) ----- The end of the citation ----- Bye, Dallas! Alexander Koryagin english_tutor 2019 --- * Origin: nntps://fidonews.mine.nu - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/6.0) .