Subj : Re: processing.. To : Nick Andre From : Dan Cross Date : Sat Feb 01 2020 14:17:43 On 31 Jan 2020 at 02:31p, Nick Andre pondered and said... NA> On 01 Feb 20 03:18:52, Dan Cross said the following to Nick Andre: NA> NA> DC> To turn your argument on it's head, perhaps a different interpretation NA> DC> is that people who are interested in experimenting are drawn to Linux NA> DC> and Unix because it's much more open and one can do more with it. NA> NA> Sorry, no disrespect, I do enjoy conversing with you - but I refuse to NA> nitpick/quote-rant. Thats not my style of replies and anyone who writes NA> replies to me in such a way just looks like trying to "win" some NA> arguement... theres nothing to turn on its head, because I'm not arguing. Eh? Sorry if you misinterpreted it, but I meant "argument" in the academic sense, as in that's your position, not that you are in the fact of arguing. NA> BBS'ing on Linux never really bothers me, Mystic and Synchronet bring NA> newcomers to the hobby. Its the operation of Fido and FTN stuff on Linux NA> that I have seen for over two decades being hit-or-miss. Largely a miss, NA> and having Linux shoved down my throat for two decades by a few of the NA> most insufferable zealots imaginable. So I do have a right to this NA> opinion after all this time. As I stated earlier, of course you have the right to have your own opinion. However, I do not believe that opinion is based on objective fact. It seems some obnoxious jerks drank the Linux koolaid and were, well, obnoxious about it. However, it does not follow from that that Linux is bad software, or incapable of supporting high-quality Fidonet software. However, a position of, "people suggesting -- nay, DEMANDING -- that I use Linux and shouting that my preferred solution sucked in comparison are jerks, therefore Linux sucks for this application" is not a position rooted in objective fact. In particular, nowhere was the actual quality, or lack thereof, of the operating system examined. NA> "Insufferable zealots" being the most polite way to describe them. It NA> takes a special kind of insufferable zealot to whine at me about NA> MSGID/REPLY because the *lack* of that kludge causes problems for that NA> person's Linux tosser. Ok. NA> When I start a friendly conversation or reply to someone, and that NA> person replies with "Your DOS software is shit" or experiments with NA> their system in a way that affects the operation of the network; my NA> disdain for Fido-on-Linux I really believe is valid and logical NA> especially after all this time. Except it isn't, really. Your disdain is really for zealots or careless operators. That's not the operating system's fault. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A44 2020/01/29 (Windows/32) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100) .