Subj : Re: bluetooth speaker appears as a keyboard?!? To : All From : V@nguard.LH Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:16:25 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.o rg!news.unit0.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: VanguardLH Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: bluetooth speaker appears as a keyboard?!? Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:10:33 -0600 Organization: Usenet Elder Lines: 92 Message-ID: <1pvxdc6hkgvh6$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net IY0vJUy3vamHQgyicAL/JAg5taeKxOiDdfcvz3nyqkNCQNNqDA Keywords: VanguardLH VLH811 Cancel-Lock: sha1:eqU9ExQpTken25UhF13qOMDSqP0= User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:134614 J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > I've just received a tiny bluetooth speaker - it's intended for a friend > who wants something for her iPhone so she can use it outdoors with the > 'phone in a pocket or pouch, but as she wears hearing aids, she doesn't > want headphones - something that can sit on her shoulder (like a police > set). > > I've found this one (Google EC101 bluetooth speaker). I'm _very_ taken > with it - it's well smaller than a matchbox, seems very well made, and > judging by the chimes it makes when you turn it on, it makes sound out > of all proportion to its size. And it has a clip on the back that will > attach it to a shoulder strap. (And it came from China in 9 days - I > ordered it thence as it was half the price UK sellers want it.) > > However: I obviously want to test it before giving, so I tried with this > (XP) computer. On the second and subsequent tries the computer sees it > no problem (first time might have been finger trouble) - but thinks it's > a keyboard! (Not only that, but the computer pops up a "type this on > your bluetooth keyboard" so briefly that even if it was a keyboard, I'd > not be able to do it in time.) > > Any thoughts? At the moment, I'm thinking that maybe it's incompatible > bluetooth versions: it says it's version 4.1, which I'm pretty certain > is a very recent one. I had assumed bluetooth versions were > backwards-compatible, but maybe they're not? (FWIW I have another > bluetooth speaker - a much bigger one - which works fine with this > machine.) Bluetooth will identify the communication protocol. A driver is still required to identify the device on the other end of the communications channel. Since you are posting in a Windows XP newsgroup, presumably you are trying to test the device on Windows XP. However, I doubt your friend is toting around a Windows XP computer on a shoulder strap. So to what type of device will this Bluetooth speaker eventually get paired? A smartphone? Since the Bluetooth device got detected as a wireless keyboard, appears there is no embedded Bluetooth driver for the device type that the Bluetooth speaker reports as itself to your Windows XP operating system. I doubt Google is producing or maintaining device drivers for an OS as old as Windows XP, especially for a new device model. I don't remember that Windows XP even came with Bluetooth support. When I got a Bluetooth transceiver as a USB dongle, I had to install the Bluetooth software for it. Do you have any other Bluetooth devices that have previously proven to work okay on your Windows XP instance? Have you ever had Bluetooth used on this Windows XP instance before? Are you using a Bluetooth daughtercard or USB dongle or some Bluetooth chip onboard the mobo? Some old Bluetooth chips only support a data-only Bluetooth profile: no audio or headset pairing. My old mobo didn't have Bluetooth so I bought a low-profile USB Bluetooth dongle (ASUS USB BT400) for about $5 and that came with the Bluetooth software (from some other source) that was needed to use the device and pair it to other devices. It was $14 w/free shipping back then but I see them now sold at Newegg for only $3 w/free shipping. I don't remember who provided the Bluetooth software. One source used to be https://www.broadcom.com/support/bluetooth. They state the drivers have moved to the Windows Update site (i.e., their drivers are hosted over there) but you aren't going to get any for Windows XP. Hopefully the Windows XP Bluetooth driver or software comes with the device. If the site didn't mention supported operating systems, they figure whatever you're using has the embedded driver or definition files for the device type reported via Bluetooth from the device. I suspect your friend's smartphone understands the device type reported by the device. From what I found online (https://fccid.io/2AK8V-EC101), the "Google" EC101 is manufactured by Shenzhen Elicks Technology Co. Good luck finding a technically detailed non-eengwish English manual for that device. It never mentions standby time, only talk/music time (2 hours). Regarding backwards compatibility, might be, might not. Often backward compatibility only extends back to some minimal version. Don't know what version you are using on your Windows XP computer. https://www.techlicious.com/tip/how-to-solve-bluetooth-pairing-problems/ Also, when pairing, get your cordless phones, microwave ovens, and other RF devices out of range or further away. If you have a USB 3 port (unlikely on Windows XP unless you installed a daughtercard), move the USB Bluetooth transceiver dongle away from the USB 3 port. They can interfere with BlueTooth and RF wireless devices. That doesn't mean the Bluetooth chips are backward compatible or support all functions. That's why I mentioned the Bluetooth in your old Windows XP might be data-only, no audio. A USB Bluetooth dongle with software would bring you up to date. You sure you don't want to wait until you're with your friend to test the Bluetooth pairing from the speaker to your friend's smartphone? Even if you got it working on your PC doesn't mean that's a guarantee it will work with the smartphone. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .